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The story literally originated in pro-Russian Ukrainian circles to fight against anti-corruption efforts there while Biden was VP: https://time.com/5902557/hunt

The story literally originated in pro-Russian Ukrainian circles to fight against anti-corruption efforts there while Biden was VP: https://time.com/5902557/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/ https://time.com/5902557/hunter-biden-rudy-giuliani-ukraine/

free_rms 6y ago
If your kid is getting 600k/yr for a no-show job, you don't get to call your interventions "anti-corruption". Literally being involved at all is a conflict of interest.
- seppin 6y ago
  Yes accuse Biden of corruption so Trump's corruption just doesn't bite as hard, and be maybe sneaks a few more votes. This is a cynical game and I'm sick of so many people playing it willingly.
  - free_rms 6y ago
    That's not very charitable at all. Can't one be upset at all corruption? Trump's gets coverage plenty of places, wall-to-wall. Yet any mention of Biden gets dogpiled by comments like yours. For the record, I'm a Bernie voter and reluctant Biden voter.
    - seppin 6y ago
      Because getting a sweetheart deal b/c your dad was VP and money laundering / theft / bribery are not two sides of the same coin. One sucks but occurs everywhere, the other is illegal.
      - free_rms 6y ago
        So who's gonna hold Biden accountable once he's President? You? The NYT and WaPo? Sure doesn't sound like it.
        seppin 6y ago
        "Trump commits crimes". "Yeah but what happens if Biden commits theoretical crimes in the future? What then?" Great point.
        free_rms 6y ago
        The world isn't zero sum, Trump wasn't a topic here until you brought him up. You're basically doing a "but her emails" here. Biden's gonna win, most likely, will any pushback against our government be met with "what about Trump" for 4 years?
        seppin 6y ago
        > Trump wasn't a topic here until you brought him up. Are you joking? Do you think any of us even know who Hunter Biden is if it's not for the dirty efforts of the Trump campaign to drag him through the mud?
lliamander 6y ago
The fact that some of this content may have been available in Ukraine does not me Ukraine was the actual source. All evidence points to a legimately Biden-owned laptop being the source: - No one in the Biden campaign has denied the laptop belonged to Hunter or the authenticity of the emails - Hunter's lawyers asked for the laptop back - The FBI confirmed that it has possession of Hunter Biden's laptop - FBI and DOJ agree that the laptop and emails were not a part of a Russian disinformation campaign.[1] [1]https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497 https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497
- seppin 6y ago
  The emails came from a Russian GRU hack last year https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-burisma-ukraine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hacke... The photos most likely from an iCloud hack. The FBI has not made ANY claims on the content of the laptop they have, nor has the Biden campaign. I don't know where you are getting your (mis)infomation from, but I dont really care either.
  - lliamander 6y ago
    There is no evidence to tie that hack to this leak. The Washington Post admits as much[1]. And respectable journalist Adam Housley reported on Hunter Biden's lawyers asking for the laptops back[2]. EDIT: also, I linked to a Fox News reporter talking about the FBI and DOJ admitting they have no reason to think this is a Russian disinformation campaign. [1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-laptop-disinformation/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-bid... [2]https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1317319606126604288 https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1317319606126604288
    - seppin 6y ago
      > There is no evidence to tie that hack to this leak. Russian Intel hacked Burisma's emails, those same emails are now part of a public smear campaign. THEY ARE THE SAME EMAILS. What you meant to say is "there is no evidence that any of these hacked materials (emails, photos) came from a laptop in Delaware. Because there isn't. > And respectable journalist Adam Housley Never heard of him. > also, I linked to a Fox News reporter Just stop. This is you cheering on your team like it's Sunday football. And no one that isn't already on your team is buying it.

free_rms 6y ago

If your kid is getting 600k/yr for a no-show job, you don't get to call your interventions "anti-corruption". Literally being involved at all is a conflict of interest.

seppin 6y ago
Yes accuse Biden of corruption so Trump's corruption just doesn't bite as hard, and be maybe sneaks a few more votes. This is a cynical game and I'm sick of so many people playing it willingly.
- free_rms 6y ago
  That's not very charitable at all. Can't one be upset at all corruption? Trump's gets coverage plenty of places, wall-to-wall. Yet any mention of Biden gets dogpiled by comments like yours. For the record, I'm a Bernie voter and reluctant Biden voter.
  - seppin 6y ago
    Because getting a sweetheart deal b/c your dad was VP and money laundering / theft / bribery are not two sides of the same coin. One sucks but occurs everywhere, the other is illegal.
    - free_rms 6y ago
      So who's gonna hold Biden accountable once he's President? You? The NYT and WaPo? Sure doesn't sound like it.
      - seppin 6y ago
        "Trump commits crimes". "Yeah but what happens if Biden commits theoretical crimes in the future? What then?" Great point.
        free_rms 6y ago
        The world isn't zero sum, Trump wasn't a topic here until you brought him up. You're basically doing a "but her emails" here. Biden's gonna win, most likely, will any pushback against our government be met with "what about Trump" for 4 years?
        seppin 6y ago
        > Trump wasn't a topic here until you brought him up. Are you joking? Do you think any of us even know who Hunter Biden is if it's not for the dirty efforts of the Trump campaign to drag him through the mud?

lliamander 6y ago

The fact that some of this content may have been available in Ukraine does not me Ukraine was the actual source. All evidence points to a legimately Biden-owned laptop being the source: - No one in the Biden campaign has denied the laptop belonged to Hunter or the authenticity of the emails - Hunter's lawyers asked for the laptop back - The FBI confirmed that it has possession of Hunter Biden's laptop - FBI and DOJ agree that the laptop and emails were not a part of a Russian disinformation campaign.[1] [1]https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497 https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1318673941624426497

seppin 6y ago
The emails came from a Russian GRU hack last year https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-burisma-ukraine.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/russian-hacke... The photos most likely from an iCloud hack. The FBI has not made ANY claims on the content of the laptop they have, nor has the Biden campaign. I don't know where you are getting your (mis)infomation from, but I dont really care either.
- lliamander 6y ago
  There is no evidence to tie that hack to this leak. The Washington Post admits as much[1]. And respectable journalist Adam Housley reported on Hunter Biden's lawyers asking for the laptops back[2]. EDIT: also, I linked to a Fox News reporter talking about the FBI and DOJ admitting they have no reason to think this is a Russian disinformation campaign. [1]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-biden-laptop-disinformation/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-bid... [2]https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1317319606126604288 https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1317319606126604288
  - seppin 6y ago
    > There is no evidence to tie that hack to this leak. Russian Intel hacked Burisma's emails, those same emails are now part of a public smear campaign. THEY ARE THE SAME EMAILS. What you meant to say is "there is no evidence that any of these hacked materials (emails, photos) came from a laptop in Delaware. Because there isn't. > And respectable journalist Adam Housley Never heard of him. > also, I linked to a Fox News reporter Just stop. This is you cheering on your team like it's Sunday football. And no one that isn't already on your team is buying it.