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Given how weak some AAA titles are regarding bugs (Bethesda, Horizon Zero Dawn) I highly doubt there is _any_ automatic testing being done in most AAA games, le

by tpxl 6y ago

Given how weak some AAA titles are regarding bugs (Bethesda, Horizon Zero Dawn) I highly doubt there is _any_ automatic testing being done in most AAA games, let alone indies.

aequitas 6y ago
Guerrilla games actually does some extensive testing on their game[0]. Like AI bots playing the game continuously to uncover bugs. But they are a Sony first party game studio which means they have a lot of experience to gain regarding the PC platform which is more diverse than a console and requires an even more extensive testing setups. Also, a lot of these kind of games are also highly driven by art style. Which is really hard to capture in automated test suites. Add to that the complexity of a 3D world and all its interactions and associated math. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDlX3Dqm0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDlX3Dqm0w
- tpxl 6y ago
  They released a game for 50€ that regularly crashes. That is not something a good studio does. Sure, they don't have experience with the PC, but that doesn't excuse the buggy release, and I'll dare call their testing for PC garbage if it let those kinds of bugs through. >Also, a lot of these kind of games are also highly driven by art style. Which is really hard to capture in automated test suites. Add to that the complexity of a 3D world and all its interactions and associated math. To be honest I wouldn't know where to start testing the art stuff, but the crashes should be doable automatically relatively easily.
dkersten 6y ago
For Horizon Zero Dawn, are you talking about the PC version? Because I didn't encounter any glaring or obvious (certainly nothing game breaking) bugs when I played the PS4 version. I don't actually remember encountering any, but I'm sure there were some minor ones that I forgot about. I certainly wouldn't give the PS4 version as an example of how weak AAA titles are regarding bugs.
- tpxl 6y ago
  Yes, I meant the PC version. I don't have experience with the PS one.

by tpxl 6y ago

Given how weak some AAA titles are regarding bugs (Bethesda, Horizon Zero Dawn) I highly doubt there is _any_ automatic testing being done in most AAA games, let alone indies.

aequitas 6y ago

Guerrilla games actually does some extensive testing on their game[0]. Like AI bots playing the game continuously to uncover bugs. But they are a Sony first party game studio which means they have a lot of experience to gain regarding the PC platform which is more diverse than a console and requires an even more extensive testing setups. Also, a lot of these kind of games are also highly driven by art style. Which is really hard to capture in automated test suites. Add to that the complexity of a 3D world and all its interactions and associated math. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDlX3Dqm0w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VDlX3Dqm0w

tpxl 6y ago
They released a game for 50€ that regularly crashes. That is not something a good studio does. Sure, they don't have experience with the PC, but that doesn't excuse the buggy release, and I'll dare call their testing for PC garbage if it let those kinds of bugs through. >Also, a lot of these kind of games are also highly driven by art style. Which is really hard to capture in automated test suites. Add to that the complexity of a 3D world and all its interactions and associated math. To be honest I wouldn't know where to start testing the art stuff, but the crashes should be doable automatically relatively easily.

dkersten 6y ago

For Horizon Zero Dawn, are you talking about the PC version? Because I didn't encounter any glaring or obvious (certainly nothing game breaking) bugs when I played the PS4 version. I don't actually remember encountering any, but I'm sure there were some minor ones that I forgot about. I certainly wouldn't give the PS4 version as an example of how weak AAA titles are regarding bugs.

tpxl 6y ago
Yes, I meant the PC version. I don't have experience with the PS one.