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Rails was released 16 years ago (according to wikipedia). Rocket just got the first release that builds on stable rust. Thus: Give it 15 years, we'll be there!

andybak 6y ago
I used Django from pretty much it's first public release and it was broadly feature complete back then.
- StavrosK 6y ago
  The ecosystem between then and now is night and day, though, and that's an extremely important part of a framework.
  - strogonoff 6y ago
    In case of Django, I actually don’t feel much difference in this regard—it’s always been very much batteries included. It is natural for a project to have no dependencies but Django (and maybe psycopg2 bindings), business domain-specific dependencies excluded. Happily used it since before the first major release.
- eli 6y ago
  It had been in production use for a while prior to its public release, yeah?
  - steveklabnik 6y ago
    IIRC, it was (like Rails) extracted from an existing web application.
  - andybak 6y ago
    Yes. I believe it was spun out of an internal project at Lawrence Journal-World.
mwcampbell 6y ago
> Rocket just got the first release that builds on stable rust. As far as I can tell, Rocket is still on 0.4.5.
- fluffything 6y ago
  Your comment and the comment you are replying to are both correct. Rocket's current released version is 0.4.5, and that version builds with a stable Rust toolchain.
  - vladvasiliu 6y ago
    It looks to me like 0.4.5 still requires nightly: error: failed to run custom build command for `rocket_codegen v0.4.5` Caused by: process didn't exit successfully: `/home/vlad/code/test-rocket/target/debug/build/rocket_codegen-f5b5d853ac3ddd89/build-script-build` (exit code: 101) --- stderr Error: Rocket (codegen) requires a 'dev' or 'nightly' version of rustc. Installed version: 1.47.0 (2020-10-07) Minimum required: 1.33.0-nightly (2019-01-13) Edit: formatting
    - fluffything 6y ago
      Indeed. Apparently the support for stable Rust was merged onto master months ago, but there hasn't been a release since then. 0.5 should be the first version that builds on stable Rust according to this thread: https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19 https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19
- DarthGhandi 6y ago
  You can use 0.5.0-dev if you want stable rust.
  - jsjohnst 6y ago
    I want to caveat this by first saying I’m a fan of Rust in general, but does one not see the irony in the article’s claim to the effect “yes, it’s ready as a Rails replacement”, yet requires you to use an unreleased dev version of a library to even build from a stable release of the language?

andybak 6y ago

I used Django from pretty much it's first public release and it was broadly feature complete back then.

StavrosK 6y ago
The ecosystem between then and now is night and day, though, and that's an extremely important part of a framework.
- strogonoff 6y ago
  In case of Django, I actually don’t feel much difference in this regard—it’s always been very much batteries included. It is natural for a project to have no dependencies but Django (and maybe psycopg2 bindings), business domain-specific dependencies excluded. Happily used it since before the first major release.
eli 6y ago
It had been in production use for a while prior to its public release, yeah?
- steveklabnik 6y ago
  IIRC, it was (like Rails) extracted from an existing web application.
- andybak 6y ago
  Yes. I believe it was spun out of an internal project at Lawrence Journal-World.

mwcampbell 6y ago

> Rocket just got the first release that builds on stable rust. As far as I can tell, Rocket is still on 0.4.5.

fluffything 6y ago
Your comment and the comment you are replying to are both correct. Rocket's current released version is 0.4.5, and that version builds with a stable Rust toolchain.
- vladvasiliu 6y ago
  It looks to me like 0.4.5 still requires nightly: error: failed to run custom build command for `rocket_codegen v0.4.5` Caused by: process didn't exit successfully: `/home/vlad/code/test-rocket/target/debug/build/rocket_codegen-f5b5d853ac3ddd89/build-script-build` (exit code: 101) --- stderr Error: Rocket (codegen) requires a 'dev' or 'nightly' version of rustc. Installed version: 1.47.0 (2020-10-07) Minimum required: 1.33.0-nightly (2019-01-13) Edit: formatting
  - fluffything 6y ago
    Indeed. Apparently the support for stable Rust was merged onto master months ago, but there hasn't been a release since then. 0.5 should be the first version that builds on stable Rust according to this thread: https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19 https://github.com/SergioBenitez/Rocket/issues/19
DarthGhandi 6y ago
You can use 0.5.0-dev if you want stable rust.
- jsjohnst 6y ago
  I want to caveat this by first saying I’m a fan of Rust in general, but does one not see the irony in the article’s claim to the effect “yes, it’s ready as a Rails replacement”, yet requires you to use an unreleased dev version of a library to even build from a stable release of the language?