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I always wondered this during meditation in high school: Do people actually see things when they close their eyes? The whole “you are at a beach, there is a gen

I always wondered this during meditation in high school: Do people actually see things when they close their eyes? The whole “you are at a beach, there is a gentle breeze...” never did anything for me. I can remember colors, relative positions, even how a specific place looked overall fairly well, but I don’t see anything.

Drakim 6y ago
You likely have Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia As for your question, yes! I don't need to actually close my eyes, I can think about certain things and see a vivid image of it deep inside of my mind. If you need something to compare it to, can you actually hear music in your "mind" when you think about a song? It's kinda like that.
- wongarsu 6y ago
  Anectotally, aphantasia seems highly correlated with reading HN (or probably programmers in general). HN threads about aphantasia-related topics always have lots of people with aphantasia, while these people make up a much smaller proportion in for example reddit threads about the same topic.
  - scruple 6y ago
    Just piling on to say that I learned that I have aphantasia from a HN thread about it a few years ago. I don't think it discriminates but it has been stated that many creative people (artists, animators, etc...) also have aphantasia. It could be that the HN population just has a lot of creative types, which does jive with the overall theme of this place.
  - Shorel 6y ago
    I would not go as far. Self selecting bias is probably the reason. People without aphantasia just don't comment in these threads. However we can say HN is the site where people with aphantasia feel safe when describing what they experience.
- ckosidows 6y ago
  I wish we had a better way of conveying what goes on in our heads. I have dreams and I can visualize things, but it's never like I'm "watching" a dream or memory. While I'm dreaming it feels real, but when I recall a dream it feels visually distinct from a lived experience. It's like I "see" things but my eyes aren't doing the seeing. Is that what others experience, or are dreams visually identical to the real world?
  - Drakim 6y ago
    To me dreams are visually alike the real world. Sometimes I struggle to remember if a particular memory happened in dream or real life (provided nothing too wacky happened).

Drakim 6y ago

You likely have Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia As for your question, yes! I don't need to actually close my eyes, I can think about certain things and see a vivid image of it deep inside of my mind. If you need something to compare it to, can you actually hear music in your "mind" when you think about a song? It's kinda like that.

wongarsu 6y ago
Anectotally, aphantasia seems highly correlated with reading HN (or probably programmers in general). HN threads about aphantasia-related topics always have lots of people with aphantasia, while these people make up a much smaller proportion in for example reddit threads about the same topic.
- scruple 6y ago
  Just piling on to say that I learned that I have aphantasia from a HN thread about it a few years ago. I don't think it discriminates but it has been stated that many creative people (artists, animators, etc...) also have aphantasia. It could be that the HN population just has a lot of creative types, which does jive with the overall theme of this place.
- Shorel 6y ago
  I would not go as far. Self selecting bias is probably the reason. People without aphantasia just don't comment in these threads. However we can say HN is the site where people with aphantasia feel safe when describing what they experience.
ckosidows 6y ago
I wish we had a better way of conveying what goes on in our heads. I have dreams and I can visualize things, but it's never like I'm "watching" a dream or memory. While I'm dreaming it feels real, but when I recall a dream it feels visually distinct from a lived experience. It's like I "see" things but my eyes aren't doing the seeing. Is that what others experience, or are dreams visually identical to the real world?
- Drakim 6y ago
  To me dreams are visually alike the real world. Sometimes I struggle to remember if a particular memory happened in dream or real life (provided nothing too wacky happened).