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Someone pretty familiar with Greenwald posted a pretty thorough, point-by-point takedown of the piece he wanted The Intercept to publish, and ended up publishin

Someone pretty familiar with Greenwald posted a pretty thorough, point-by-point takedown of the piece he wanted The Intercept to publish, and ended up publishing himself: https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1321923054499495938?s=20 https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1321923054499495938?s=... Frankly, if you read his original piece, it's exhaustingly shoddy. To say he needs an editor is putting it lightly.

adjkant 6y ago
It's sad I had to scour Twitter and replies here to find this on the third page. The irony of HN upvoting comments that do the same op-ed ranting on their own issues and haven't seem to have thought critically about the article in question or the emails Greenwald himself leaked (which paints the publishing story quite differently from his version of it) is wild but not unexpected.
nickysielicki 6y ago
I can’t believe that you genuinely would consider these tweets to be a “thorough point-by-point takedown” of the article. If anything, her counter arguments were so weak that I’m even more strongly in support of Greenwald than before. For example, at one point she implies that we should not trust the emails (and further, that it is incorrect to claim that emails have been leaked), because they are pictures of emails instead of text files. What?
- ilikehurdles 6y ago
  The first point? Ask Greenwald, he’s helped get actual emails from whistleblowers into publication a few times. I mean the blind computer repair shop owner on the opposite side of the country from where Hunter lives allegedly had 3 laptops in his possession that he offered to do data recovery on for the low total of $75, before digging into the data and handing it to Giuliani and friends. Why would these laptops only have PDF reproductions of some email rather than any originals with any headers intact? Surely they must have the real things in there. Tell him to open outlook.

adjkant 6y ago

It's sad I had to scour Twitter and replies here to find this on the third page. The irony of HN upvoting comments that do the same op-ed ranting on their own issues and haven't seem to have thought critically about the article in question or the emails Greenwald himself leaked (which paints the publishing story quite differently from his version of it) is wild but not unexpected.

nickysielicki 6y ago

I can’t believe that you genuinely would consider these tweets to be a “thorough point-by-point takedown” of the article. If anything, her counter arguments were so weak that I’m even more strongly in support of Greenwald than before. For example, at one point she implies that we should not trust the emails (and further, that it is incorrect to claim that emails have been leaked), because they are pictures of emails instead of text files. What?

ilikehurdles 6y ago
The first point? Ask Greenwald, he’s helped get actual emails from whistleblowers into publication a few times. I mean the blind computer repair shop owner on the opposite side of the country from where Hunter lives allegedly had 3 laptops in his possession that he offered to do data recovery on for the low total of $75, before digging into the data and handing it to Giuliani and friends. Why would these laptops only have PDF reproductions of some email rather than any originals with any headers intact? Surely they must have the real things in there. Tell him to open outlook.