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When I was 11 (that was 1971) I did a school project on climate change. At the time the coming Ice age was all the rage. All pop science magazines I read wrote

by raarts 6y ago

When I was 11 (that was 1971) I did a school project on climate change. At the time the coming Ice age was all the rage. All pop science magazines I read wrote about it and it was also mentioned regularly in newspapers and in documentaries. Apparently scientists had been seeing temperatures dropping for quite some time. (I also remember winters having more snow than they do now). Later all that changed to global warming.

dlp211 6y ago
Congratulations, that's called science. I don't get where so many people forgot the point of science. Create a falsifiable hypothesis, test said hypothesis over and over again with new techniques and data. When said hypothesis is invalidated, create new hypothesis. Our techniques and data collection and quality are orders of magnitude better today. I also point you to this: https://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-about-global-cooling.html https://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-abo... All the data points to anthropogenic global warming and the fundamental phenomena has been understood for well over a century.
- username90 6y ago
  A problem is that public figures don't make a difference between scientific theories based on how likely they are to be valid. They just take some theory, say it is "science" and then go on with "science is on my side!". This abuse of science is why we have so many science denialists today. And not just on the right side, so many on the left denies things like biological factors of IQ.
sergeykish 6y ago
Science is testable predictions about the universe. Archimedes, Newton, Einstein made right predictions in their domain. There would be Ice Age if not human activity. Needed specific data to see the trend, not available to layman. Today we do not need to get far away to see climate change. This is science, believing your eyes.
webmaven 6y ago
> When I was 11 (that was 1971) I did a school project on climate change. At the time the coming Ice age was all the rage. All pop science magazines I read wrote about it and it was also mentioned regularly in newspapers and in documentaries. > Apparently scientists had been seeing temperatures dropping for quite some time. (I also remember winters having more snow than they do now). > Later all that changed to global warming. The thing is, "global cooling" was almost exclusively a phenomenon of the popular press. It was a minority view among climatologists all along. wikipedia has a good summary: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_coolingp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_coolingp
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by raarts 6y ago

dlp211 6y ago

Congratulations, that's called science. I don't get where so many people forgot the point of science. Create a falsifiable hypothesis, test said hypothesis over and over again with new techniques and data. When said hypothesis is invalidated, create new hypothesis. Our techniques and data collection and quality are orders of magnitude better today. I also point you to this: https://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-about-global-cooling.html https://www.skepticalscience.com/What-1970s-science-said-abo... All the data points to anthropogenic global warming and the fundamental phenomena has been understood for well over a century.

username90 6y ago
A problem is that public figures don't make a difference between scientific theories based on how likely they are to be valid. They just take some theory, say it is "science" and then go on with "science is on my side!". This abuse of science is why we have so many science denialists today. And not just on the right side, so many on the left denies things like biological factors of IQ.

sergeykish 6y ago

Science is testable predictions about the universe. Archimedes, Newton, Einstein made right predictions in their domain. There would be Ice Age if not human activity. Needed specific data to see the trend, not available to layman. Today we do not need to get far away to see climate change. This is science, believing your eyes.

webmaven 6y ago

> When I was 11 (that was 1971) I did a school project on climate change. At the time the coming Ice age was all the rage. All pop science magazines I read wrote about it and it was also mentioned regularly in newspapers and in documentaries. > Apparently scientists had been seeing temperatures dropping for quite some time. (I also remember winters having more snow than they do now). > Later all that changed to global warming. The thing is, "global cooling" was almost exclusively a phenomenon of the popular press. It was a minority view among climatologists all along. wikipedia has a good summary: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_coolingp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_coolingp

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