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In Mac sales, there was probably going to be a question of whether the announced ARM transition would osbourne Intel Mac sales (or maybe, conversely, get everyb

In Mac sales, there was probably going to be a question of whether the announced ARM transition would osbourne Intel Mac sales (or maybe, conversely, get everybody to buy one last Intel Mac before their model was discontinued?).

simonh 6y ago
I’m an iMac guy and firmly in the second camp. I also want to be able to dual boot into a windows 10, and be able to run Windows and Linux VMs, so the recent iMac update was a no brainier. Should last me 6 to 8 years. I’ll worry about VMs on AS Macs then.
mh8h 6y ago
The tricky part is that, if Apple supports the OS on the old architecture as long as they did during the last transition, the Intel macs of today will only get support for two major OS versions after Big Sur.
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  We're not even sure if they're going to phase out the old architecture or just sell them concurrently for an arbitrarily long period of time. What do they put in the next Mac Pro that can make it competitive with a 64-core Threadripper, if not a 64-core Threadripper?
  - my123 6y ago
    Apple said that the transition period was two years. For the Mac Pro that's a good question, wonder if they'll use merchant arm chips there instead of their own ones.
    - _-___________-_ 6y ago
      Which merchant ARM chips would come even close to a 64-core threadripper?
      - coldtea 6y ago
        Well, there's the one used in this which should hold up well by itself too: A Japanese supercomputer has taken the top spot in the biannual Top500 supercomputer speed ranking. Fugaku, a computer in Kobe co-developed by Riken and Fujitsu, makes use of Fujitsu’s 48-core A64FX system-on-chip. It’s the first time a computer based on ARM processors has topped the list
      - als0 6y ago
        Ampere eMAG? Marvell ThunderX2?
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >What do they put in the next Mac Pro that can make it competitive with a 64-core Threadripper, if not a 64-core Threadripper? Their own ARM-based 64-core pro thermally optimized chip?
- raydev 6y ago
  Different market, different Apple. Presumably being wildly more popular will force them to treat this transition differently.
tomjakubowski 6y ago
What does "osborne" mean here?
- vulcan01 6y ago
  The user is referring to the Osborne effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
- _ph_ 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
- awinder 6y ago
  https://i.redd.it/ptxs168d2gn51.jpg https://i.redd.it/ptxs168d2gn51.jpg
raydev 6y ago
The average consumer is probably unaware of the Apple Silicon transition. They'll know about Apple Silicon if Apple decides to drop support for Intel too early. But they've been pretty good about maintaining a 7 year support window for macOS.
totalZero 6y ago
> (or maybe, conversely, get everybody to buy one last Intel Mac before their model was discontinued?). This is precisely why I'm looking at buying a new MBP.

simonh 6y ago

I’m an iMac guy and firmly in the second camp. I also want to be able to dual boot into a windows 10, and be able to run Windows and Linux VMs, so the recent iMac update was a no brainier. Should last me 6 to 8 years. I’ll worry about VMs on AS Macs then.

mh8h 6y ago

The tricky part is that, if Apple supports the OS on the old architecture as long as they did during the last transition, the Intel macs of today will only get support for two major OS versions after Big Sur.

AnthonyMouse 6y ago
We're not even sure if they're going to phase out the old architecture or just sell them concurrently for an arbitrarily long period of time. What do they put in the next Mac Pro that can make it competitive with a 64-core Threadripper, if not a 64-core Threadripper?
- my123 6y ago
  Apple said that the transition period was two years. For the Mac Pro that's a good question, wonder if they'll use merchant arm chips there instead of their own ones.
  - _-___________-_ 6y ago
    Which merchant ARM chips would come even close to a 64-core threadripper?
    - coldtea 6y ago
      Well, there's the one used in this which should hold up well by itself too: A Japanese supercomputer has taken the top spot in the biannual Top500 supercomputer speed ranking. Fugaku, a computer in Kobe co-developed by Riken and Fujitsu, makes use of Fujitsu’s 48-core A64FX system-on-chip. It’s the first time a computer based on ARM processors has topped the list
    - als0 6y ago
      Ampere eMAG? Marvell ThunderX2?
- coldtea 6y ago
  >What do they put in the next Mac Pro that can make it competitive with a 64-core Threadripper, if not a 64-core Threadripper? Their own ARM-based 64-core pro thermally optimized chip?
raydev 6y ago
Different market, different Apple. Presumably being wildly more popular will force them to treat this transition differently.

tomjakubowski 6y ago

What does "osborne" mean here?

vulcan01 6y ago
The user is referring to the Osborne effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
_ph_ 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect
awinder 6y ago
https://i.redd.it/ptxs168d2gn51.jpg https://i.redd.it/ptxs168d2gn51.jpg

raydev 6y ago

The average consumer is probably unaware of the Apple Silicon transition. They'll know about Apple Silicon if Apple decides to drop support for Intel too early. But they've been pretty good about maintaining a 7 year support window for macOS.

totalZero 6y ago

> (or maybe, conversely, get everybody to buy one last Intel Mac before their model was discontinued?). This is precisely why I'm looking at buying a new MBP.