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The price really isn't that outrageous. Consider the use-case: this is a mini-ITX form-factor with a standard power supply, M.2 slots, a PCIe adapter, etc. This

The price really isn't that outrageous. Consider the use-case: this is a mini-ITX form-factor with a standard power supply, M.2 slots, a PCIe adapter, etc. This is designed for desktop workstations. It comes with the CPU, motherboard, and RAM, all in one package. When you sum up the costs of those in your typical desktop PC workstation build, it's not really that far off.

wmf 6y ago
It's very far off since this is slower and has fewer features than the worst motherboard ($60) and the worst CPU ($50) on the market. Add $30 worth of RAM and you're up to $140.
- ddevault 6y ago
  It's also the first usable workstation for a novel open-source architecture. It's not as fast but that's a feature which, in my opinion, makes the price parity reasonable. Progress is gradual.
snvzz 6y ago
>It comes with the CPU, motherboard, and RAM, all in one package. Unfortunately, the RAM not being socketed means you're limited to 8GB, which disqualifies this machine as workstation. Low CPU performance is tolerable, system chocking on low RAM isn't. I'm suffering on a laptop that "only" has 16GB RAM, and this is despite minimizing the load by alternating between Sway and i3 depending on mood on boot. Editor, Browser (unavoidably heavy, with a ton of tabs open as part of the workflow), PDF viewer, Music player and little else. Everything is bloated these days. I don't see how 8GB can be tolerable as a workstation. It really is a deal breaker.
- ddevault 6y ago
  Hah! 8G of RAM is plenty for a workstation. My main laptop away from home is only on 4G and I seem to manage just fine. My home workstation is 32G but the only time I get even close to that is when I use /tmp to compile a large project.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    It looks like enough for you but I think commonly it's not enough. 16GB is minimum for "workstation".

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The price really isn't that outrageous. Consider the use-case: this is a mini-ITX form-factor with a standard power supply, M.2 slots, a PCIe adapter, etc. This

by ddevault 6y ago

wmf 6y ago
It's very far off since this is slower and has fewer features than the worst motherboard ($60) and the worst CPU ($50) on the market. Add $30 worth of RAM and you're up to $140.
- ddevault 6y ago
  It's also the first usable workstation for a novel open-source architecture. It's not as fast but that's a feature which, in my opinion, makes the price parity reasonable. Progress is gradual.
snvzz 6y ago
>It comes with the CPU, motherboard, and RAM, all in one package. Unfortunately, the RAM not being socketed means you're limited to 8GB, which disqualifies this machine as workstation. Low CPU performance is tolerable, system chocking on low RAM isn't. I'm suffering on a laptop that "only" has 16GB RAM, and this is despite minimizing the load by alternating between Sway and i3 depending on mood on boot. Editor, Browser (unavoidably heavy, with a ton of tabs open as part of the workflow), PDF viewer, Music player and little else. Everything is bloated these days. I don't see how 8GB can be tolerable as a workstation. It really is a deal breaker.
- ddevault 6y ago
  Hah! 8G of RAM is plenty for a workstation. My main laptop away from home is only on 4G and I seem to manage just fine. My home workstation is 32G but the only time I get even close to that is when I use /tmp to compile a large project.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    It looks like enough for you but I think commonly it's not enough. 16GB is minimum for "workstation".