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> Prominent liberals like Alan Dershowitz say they're being socially blacklisted for not taking part in a pile on against Trump: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07

by Pils 6y ago

> Prominent liberals like Alan Dershowitz say they're being socially blacklisted for not taking part in a pile on against Trump: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/03/us/alan-dershowitz-martha https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/03/us/alan-dershowitz-martha... Not going to directly engage with your argument, but this framing is frankly absurd. Alan Dershowitz is not "neutral" with regards to Trump, he was literally part of his legal defense team!

koolba 6y ago
> Not going to directly engage with your argument, but this framing is frankly absurd. Alan Dershowitz is not "neutral" with regards to Trump, he was literally part of his legal defense team! That article is dated a year and half prior to Trump’s impeachment. Dershowitz disagrees with Trump on policy matters on just about everything. What he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters. And hence he gets blacklisted for not joining the hate.
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  > he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters I think the idea of the "apolitical" constitution is more myth than reality. Dershowitz is perhaps a liberal in the classic political philosophy sense, but I would not call him a "prominent liberal" in the American sense. He also might have been 'blacklisted' because he was at least somewhat credibly accused of pedophilia.
  - alisonkisk 6y ago
    Pedophilia is not a legitimate reason to blacklist anyone. Furthermore, Dershowitz was never accused of pedophilia. He was accused of statury rape of a 17yr old.
    - whimsicalism 6y ago
      > Pedophilia is not a legitimate reason to blacklist anyone Uh, okay.
- mturmon 6y ago
  > Dershowitz disagrees with Trump on policy matters on just about everything. What he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters. Like when Dershowitz defended Trump during the impeachment hearings, on grounds that he hadn't been shown to commit a crime, that were very tendentious and rejected by constitutional scholars? Give me a break, the man's judgement is completely compromised. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/1/30/legal-experts-react-dershowitz-impeachment/ https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/1/30/legal-experts-r...
  - dafty4 6y ago
    Dershowitz defended Trump because he wanted the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem. He played Trump like a fiddle.

by Pils 6y ago

koolba 6y ago

> Not going to directly engage with your argument, but this framing is frankly absurd. Alan Dershowitz is not "neutral" with regards to Trump, he was literally part of his legal defense team! That article is dated a year and half prior to Trump’s impeachment. Dershowitz disagrees with Trump on policy matters on just about everything. What he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters. And hence he gets blacklisted for not joining the hate.

whimsicalism 6y ago
> he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters I think the idea of the "apolitical" constitution is more myth than reality. Dershowitz is perhaps a liberal in the classic political philosophy sense, but I would not call him a "prominent liberal" in the American sense. He also might have been 'blacklisted' because he was at least somewhat credibly accused of pedophilia.
- alisonkisk 6y ago
  Pedophilia is not a legitimate reason to blacklist anyone. Furthermore, Dershowitz was never accused of pedophilia. He was accused of statury rape of a 17yr old.
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    > Pedophilia is not a legitimate reason to blacklist anyone Uh, okay.
mturmon 6y ago
> Dershowitz disagrees with Trump on policy matters on just about everything. What he doesn’t do is let his political disagreements pervert his legal opinions on constitutional matters. Like when Dershowitz defended Trump during the impeachment hearings, on grounds that he hadn't been shown to commit a crime, that were very tendentious and rejected by constitutional scholars? Give me a break, the man's judgement is completely compromised. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/1/30/legal-experts-react-dershowitz-impeachment/ https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/1/30/legal-experts-r...
- dafty4 6y ago
  Dershowitz defended Trump because he wanted the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem. He played Trump like a fiddle.