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To me, it's the fact that Joe Biden didn't put a stop to this immediately. Regardless of the emails, Hunter Biden is/was a drug addict with no skills, being pai

To me, it's the fact that Joe Biden didn't put a stop to this immediately. Regardless of the emails, Hunter Biden is/was a drug addict with no skills, being paid upwards of $50,000/month to be on a Board of Directors of a known corrupt company. What skill does he possess that is worth $600,000? The only thing that makes sense is his connection to Joe Biden. It's obvious they were paying him money to be on the board because of his connection to Joe Biden, and Joe Biden should have put a stop to it. That's the crux of the issue to me. The fact that the media is forming a wall of silence around this issue really does show the vast biases they have. This doesn't mean Trump isn't corrupt, by the way, which he is and I believe he is unfit to be president and nothing about the laptop or these emails stopped me from voting for Biden. But every tiny issue with Trump is magnified and overanalyzed by the media, but this rather big issue on Biden is swept under the rug. The media is just as corrupt and biased but the only losers are we the people.

epistasis 6y ago
We elected George W Bush to President, whose history isn't so far away from Hunter Biden's except that the Biden family isn't insanely wealthy. This wasn't that long ago. Everybody should remember Bush's coke problems. You are right that there's a double standard, but I don't think that double standard is where you assert it is. I mean, has there been any investigation of the intelligence response to Russia having bounties on US soldiers' heads? And you think that "any small thing" by Trump gets investigated? Four years ago we were obsessing over emails from the Clintons, which Trump would have us believe were worthy of jailing Clinton. Yet here we are four years later with absolutely no wrongdoing exposed, no grand jury indictments, etc. The lack of awareness and short memories are astounding.
- macspoofing 6y ago
  >has there been any investigation of the intelligence response to Russia having bounties on US soldiers' heads? Yeah. It turned out to be speculative bullshit. There is no link between American solider deaths in Afghanistan to any bounty program from Russia (or even that such a bounty program has ever existed). Why do you think the story just disappeared?
  - epistasis 6y ago
    Might want to update Wikipedia if you can substantiate "bullshit" in some way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program And we still don't have a President that can keep up with intelligence briefings, apparently.
    - macspoofing 6y ago
      You may want to actually read the article. Pretty much everybody, from the Taliban, to Russians, to DoD and American intelligence, dismisses the story. The choice lines from YOUR source: - "On July 9, 2020, Defense Secretary Mark Esper said that Marine Gen. Kenneth McKenzie Jr. and DOD intelligence agencies have not found a link between alleged Russian bounties and that specific attack." - "On September 14, 2020, Gen. McKenzie stated, "It just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me," reflecting a growing consensus among the U.S. military leaders that the anonymous sources initially presented in the media were either exaggerated or false." Give me a break. If there was even an inkling that this story was true, it would be front-page news from now until election day.
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      - joshuamorton 6y ago
        > Give me a break. If there was even an inkling that this story was true, it would be front-page news from now until election day. Clearly not. Circular arguments aren't a good look.
      - acoard 6y ago
        This also seems relevant: >According to the New York Times, on 1 July, the National Intelligence Council, which reports to the director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, produced a two-and-a-half page document in which various intelligence agencies assessed the credibility of the existence of a bounty program based on the available evidence. Anonymous officials who had seen the memo said that the "C.I.A. and the National Counterterrorism Center had assessed with medium confidence—meaning credibly sourced and plausible, but falling short of near certainty"—that the GRU had offered bounties. It takes evidence to get to a medium confidence assessment, it is not purely "speculative bullshit."
- ping_pong 6y ago
  This is whataboutism. I'm someone who believes that Bush should be in jail for crimes against humanity. But nothing you said doesn't take away from the fact that the media is corrupt right now and avoiding a real story on Biden.
  - epistasis 6y ago
    No it's not, at all, it's a response to the accusations of a double standard based on political party.
    - ping_pong 6y ago
      "The media is ignoring Joe Biden stories and nitpicking Trump stories." "What about George W. Bush?" Yes, it's whataboutism. Answer the question about Joe Biden vs Trump.
- nostromo 6y ago
  If hiding behind the election of George W Bush is your defense... you need a new lawyer. Clinton did destroy tens of thousands of emails that were under subpoena by the FBI. If you or I did that, we'd be jail for eternity. And yet... I think this is the spirit behind "lock her up" -- the fact that there are two sets of rules for the powerful and for the rest of us. This is true for them all: Trump, Clinton, Bush and Biden.
mikeyouse 6y ago
I have no idea about the veracity of the story, but Hunter Biden went to Georgetown and Yale Law and was EVP at a massive bank holding company and founded a lobbying firm.. That resume is every bit as impressive as most people in the 'business world'. Describing him as a "drug addict with no skills" is very misleading.

epistasis 6y ago

We elected George W Bush to President, whose history isn't so far away from Hunter Biden's except that the Biden family isn't insanely wealthy. This wasn't that long ago. Everybody should remember Bush's coke problems. You are right that there's a double standard, but I don't think that double standard is where you assert it is. I mean, has there been any investigation of the intelligence response to Russia having bounties on US soldiers' heads? And you think that "any small thing" by Trump gets investigated? Four years ago we were obsessing over emails from the Clintons, which Trump would have us believe were worthy of jailing Clinton. Yet here we are four years later with absolutely no wrongdoing exposed, no grand jury indictments, etc. The lack of awareness and short memories are astounding.

macspoofing 6y ago
>has there been any investigation of the intelligence response to Russia having bounties on US soldiers' heads? Yeah. It turned out to be speculative bullshit. There is no link between American solider deaths in Afghanistan to any bounty program from Russia (or even that such a bounty program has ever existed). Why do you think the story just disappeared?
- epistasis 6y ago
  Might want to update Wikipedia if you can substantiate "bullshit" in some way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_bounty_program And we still don't have a President that can keep up with intelligence briefings, apparently.
  - macspoofing 6y ago
    You may want to actually read the article. Pretty much everybody, from the Taliban, to Russians, to DoD and American intelligence, dismisses the story. The choice lines from YOUR source: - "On July 9, 2020, Defense Secretary Mark Esper said that Marine Gen. Kenneth McKenzie Jr. and DOD intelligence agencies have not found a link between alleged Russian bounties and that specific attack." - "On September 14, 2020, Gen. McKenzie stated, "It just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me," reflecting a growing consensus among the U.S. military leaders that the anonymous sources initially presented in the media were either exaggerated or false." Give me a break. If there was even an inkling that this story was true, it would be front-page news from now until election day.
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    - joshuamorton 6y ago
      > Give me a break. If there was even an inkling that this story was true, it would be front-page news from now until election day. Clearly not. Circular arguments aren't a good look.
    - acoard 6y ago
      This also seems relevant: >According to the New York Times, on 1 July, the National Intelligence Council, which reports to the director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, produced a two-and-a-half page document in which various intelligence agencies assessed the credibility of the existence of a bounty program based on the available evidence. Anonymous officials who had seen the memo said that the "C.I.A. and the National Counterterrorism Center had assessed with medium confidence—meaning credibly sourced and plausible, but falling short of near certainty"—that the GRU had offered bounties. It takes evidence to get to a medium confidence assessment, it is not purely "speculative bullshit."
ping_pong 6y ago
This is whataboutism. I'm someone who believes that Bush should be in jail for crimes against humanity. But nothing you said doesn't take away from the fact that the media is corrupt right now and avoiding a real story on Biden.
- epistasis 6y ago
  No it's not, at all, it's a response to the accusations of a double standard based on political party.
  - ping_pong 6y ago
    "The media is ignoring Joe Biden stories and nitpicking Trump stories." "What about George W. Bush?" Yes, it's whataboutism. Answer the question about Joe Biden vs Trump.
nostromo 6y ago
If hiding behind the election of George W Bush is your defense... you need a new lawyer. Clinton did destroy tens of thousands of emails that were under subpoena by the FBI. If you or I did that, we'd be jail for eternity. And yet... I think this is the spirit behind "lock her up" -- the fact that there are two sets of rules for the powerful and for the rest of us. This is true for them all: Trump, Clinton, Bush and Biden.

mikeyouse 6y ago

I have no idea about the veracity of the story, but Hunter Biden went to Georgetown and Yale Law and was EVP at a massive bank holding company and founded a lobbying firm.. That resume is every bit as impressive as most people in the 'business world'. Describing him as a "drug addict with no skills" is very misleading.