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Please elaborate on what you perceive to be holes in this story.

by jtdev 6y ago

karlkatzke 6y ago
This is the Hunter Biden laptop story. The theory here is that Hunter Biden, for some reason, flew 3,000 miles away from his home to drop off some devices with unencrypted sensitive data for repair and data recovery at a place where the owner couldn't identify him positively because he's blind, and then just forgot them. The shop's surveillance camera footage for the time period in question got wiped clean even though there's footage from before and after. And instead of just deleting the data and moving on with life, the owner held on to it for a year (no one does this) and then somehow (we still don't know how) it ended up in the hands of Rudi Giuliani. And we can't see it except for a couple of screenshots from imessage, but we're told it's damning. It got mailed to Tucker Carlson but somehow got lost in the mail. Here's the interview with the shop owner: https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter... This is classic KGB/FSB misinformation. It's right out of the playbook.
- jtdev 6y ago
  You just used a collection of logical fallacies to poke holes in the story while avoiding the question of Joe Biden being corrupt and indebted to foreign adversaries. Why did Hunter Biden get +$50,000/mo. salary from a Ukranian energy company that Joe Biden had dealings with during his time as VPOTUS? Why did Hunter Biden get $1 billion windfall from China just days after visiting Beijing with his influential father?
  - karlkatzke 6y ago
    Why do Donald Trump's children have top secret clearances that they're ineligible for and work in the White House with him? Why does Donald Trump owe foreign banks nearly a billion dollars? Why did two banks forgive millions of dollars of loans against Donald Trump and then have bankers directly responsible for forgiving the loans receive positions within his administration? Why hasn't Donald Trump divested himself of his holdings in his companies as required to by the Emoluments clause? Why has the federal government paid Trump properties over a billion dollars for secret service and other agents to stay there? Until you can answer all of those questions with reasonable explanations that aren't "because he can" then I don't want to hear another word out of you about Hunter Biden -- who has had no role in the Obama/Biden administration and will have no role in the Biden/Harris administration.
    - jtdev 6y ago
      Jared Kushner - one of those supposedly unqualified family members, and one that the media has enjoyed throwing rocks at for years now - brokered multiple peace deals in the middle east, something that decades of establishment political and foreign policy figures have been unable to accomplish with little critique from the media.
      - karlkatzke 6y ago
        What Kushner did disassembled something like 30 years of UN effort in the region. He enabled an alliance between two bullies who could agree on a couple of things, and will now use that alliance to beat the shit out of people that disagree with them, to the detriment of, say Palestine. This "accomplishment" is the equivalent to smuggling some dinosaur embryos to a south american island in a cryogenic cylinder disguised as shaving cream. It's not so much that career diplomats COULDN'T do it, it's that they understood why they SHOULDN'T do it.
        jtdev 6y ago
        The UN was doing such a great job with Middle East peace... such a shame that Kushner and the bad orange man ruined all the great work they had done.
      - irencecara 6y ago
        Come on. You are here throwing stones at Joe Biden because of some nebulous tie in with his son that has now been litigated to death, and you have nothing whatsoever to say about Trump's obvious nepotism? Jared Kushner made deals with corrupt regimes to try to boost his daddy-in-laws reelection. Nothing else. Unbelievable. Trump supporters live in a world of untruth and hypocrisy.
    - zaroth 6y ago
      I think we used to call this “whataboutism”?
- secondcoming 6y ago
  The apparent backstory of the laptop is better explained here, by a lawyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzCwiURwwQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzCwiURwwQ
  - karlkatzke 6y ago
    Sure, there isn't an expectation of privacy. But that implies that the property is Hunter Biden's in the first place and that there's an intact chain of custody of evidence if there are misdeeds, which there isn't. Again, this looks exactly like every other KGB/FSB misinformation operation.

Please elaborate on what you perceive to be holes in this story.

by jtdev 6y ago

Please elaborate on what you perceive to be holes in this story.

This is the Hunter Biden laptop story. The theory here is that Hunter Biden, for some reason, flew 3,000 miles away from his home to drop off some devices with unencrypted sensitive data for repair and data recovery at a place where the owner couldn't identify him positively because he's blind, and then just forgot them. The shop's surveillance camera footage for the time period in question got wiped clean even though there's footage from before and after. And instead of just deleting the data and moving on with life, the owner held on to it for a year (no one does this) and then somehow (we still don't know how) it ended up in the hands of Rudi Giuliani. And we can't see it except for a couple of screenshots from imessage, but we're told it's damning. It got mailed to Tucker Carlson but somehow got lost in the mail. Here's the interview with the shop owner: https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunter... This is classic KGB/FSB misinformation. It's right out of the playbook.

jtdev 6y ago
You just used a collection of logical fallacies to poke holes in the story while avoiding the question of Joe Biden being corrupt and indebted to foreign adversaries. Why did Hunter Biden get +$50,000/mo. salary from a Ukranian energy company that Joe Biden had dealings with during his time as VPOTUS? Why did Hunter Biden get $1 billion windfall from China just days after visiting Beijing with his influential father?
- karlkatzke 6y ago
  Why do Donald Trump's children have top secret clearances that they're ineligible for and work in the White House with him? Why does Donald Trump owe foreign banks nearly a billion dollars? Why did two banks forgive millions of dollars of loans against Donald Trump and then have bankers directly responsible for forgiving the loans receive positions within his administration? Why hasn't Donald Trump divested himself of his holdings in his companies as required to by the Emoluments clause? Why has the federal government paid Trump properties over a billion dollars for secret service and other agents to stay there? Until you can answer all of those questions with reasonable explanations that aren't "because he can" then I don't want to hear another word out of you about Hunter Biden -- who has had no role in the Obama/Biden administration and will have no role in the Biden/Harris administration.
  - jtdev 6y ago
    Jared Kushner - one of those supposedly unqualified family members, and one that the media has enjoyed throwing rocks at for years now - brokered multiple peace deals in the middle east, something that decades of establishment political and foreign policy figures have been unable to accomplish with little critique from the media.
    - karlkatzke 6y ago
      What Kushner did disassembled something like 30 years of UN effort in the region. He enabled an alliance between two bullies who could agree on a couple of things, and will now use that alliance to beat the shit out of people that disagree with them, to the detriment of, say Palestine. This "accomplishment" is the equivalent to smuggling some dinosaur embryos to a south american island in a cryogenic cylinder disguised as shaving cream. It's not so much that career diplomats COULDN'T do it, it's that they understood why they SHOULDN'T do it.
      - jtdev 6y ago
        The UN was doing such a great job with Middle East peace... such a shame that Kushner and the bad orange man ruined all the great work they had done.
    - irencecara 6y ago
      Come on. You are here throwing stones at Joe Biden because of some nebulous tie in with his son that has now been litigated to death, and you have nothing whatsoever to say about Trump's obvious nepotism? Jared Kushner made deals with corrupt regimes to try to boost his daddy-in-laws reelection. Nothing else. Unbelievable. Trump supporters live in a world of untruth and hypocrisy.
  - zaroth 6y ago
    I think we used to call this “whataboutism”?
secondcoming 6y ago
The apparent backstory of the laptop is better explained here, by a lawyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzCwiURwwQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYzCwiURwwQ
- karlkatzke 6y ago
  Sure, there isn't an expectation of privacy. But that implies that the property is Hunter Biden's in the first place and that there's an intact chain of custody of evidence if there are misdeeds, which there isn't. Again, this looks exactly like every other KGB/FSB misinformation operation.