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I can understand how you might think that code repos are different from other social media sites. However, they aren't. They require moderation because people

by wrsh07 6y ago

I can understand how you might think that code repos are different from other social media sites. However, they aren't. They require moderation because people are rude even when not anonymous. Here's a quote from the vscode repo moderators: > We deleted a handful of comments which we deemed too offensive to leave as-is (foul language, racist remarks, etc.). We also deleted a few issues that were overwhelmingly offensive. Unfortunately, that resulted in some non-offensive comments within those issues being deleted as well. https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87440 https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87440 Surely you can't continue to claim that open source communities do not suffer from such issues, now, right?

skohan 6y ago
I'm not saying that open source communities are not in need of moderation. Of course they are, like any online community. Basically every open online forum is vulnerable to vulgar, hateful and abusive content being posted. The point this sub-thread is referring to, is that CoC's are there as: > a way to assure newcomers that your project wasn't going to allow racist trolling on the mailing list This is what seems a bit funny to me, because I would take it for granted that racist remarks would not be tolerated as a matter of course. It doesn't seem to me that you need a CoC to enforce this. And I would repeat that in my personal experience, having been involved with OSS discussions for over 10 years, I have never personally encountered this.
- wrsh07 6y ago
  Of course you don't need a CoC to enforce anything! You can moderate aggressively without one. What it does is sets expectations. It sets expectations for everyone involved in any interactions. In general, this should give you confidence that there will be some moderation or recourse if you experience rude behavior. That may allow some people who have been burned by ruder communities to be willing to give yours a try.

by wrsh07 6y ago

skohan 6y ago

I'm not saying that open source communities are not in need of moderation. Of course they are, like any online community. Basically every open online forum is vulnerable to vulgar, hateful and abusive content being posted. The point this sub-thread is referring to, is that CoC's are there as: > a way to assure newcomers that your project wasn't going to allow racist trolling on the mailing list This is what seems a bit funny to me, because I would take it for granted that racist remarks would not be tolerated as a matter of course. It doesn't seem to me that you need a CoC to enforce this. And I would repeat that in my personal experience, having been involved with OSS discussions for over 10 years, I have never personally encountered this.

wrsh07 6y ago
Of course you don't need a CoC to enforce anything! You can moderate aggressively without one. What it does is sets expectations. It sets expectations for everyone involved in any interactions. In general, this should give you confidence that there will be some moderation or recourse if you experience rude behavior. That may allow some people who have been burned by ruder communities to be willing to give yours a try.