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> The line of reasoning was that masks were in deep shortage, and in the scenario it made more sense to get supplies to front line medical staff, and particular
by 542354234235 6y ago
> The line of reasoning was that masks were in deep shortage, and in the scenario it made more sense to get supplies to front line medical staff, and particularly to avoid people hoarding masks. The effectiveness of masks was purposely downplayed to affect desired outcome of the population.
No. The line of reasoning was there was a deep shortage and with the information they had at the time, they did not think that masks were necessary or useful for the average person. They didn’t lie and say masks don’t work, they said masks don’t work like people think they do and they didn’t believe it was necessary or productive to wear them. And masks don’t provide meaningful protection to the person wearing them. They provide meaningful protection to the people around the mask wearer. So going and getting a non-N95 to keep from getting covid, was and is wrong.
> “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.” - Dr. Fauci, March 8, 2020…How on earth could we pull a 'moral 180' on some behaviour so quickly without really any new information?
This can’t possibly be serious. We have been learning new information about this completely novel virus every single week. It is a completely new virus we knew nothing about a year ago. That statement was made on March 8th, when there were a few thousand cases in the US. We had a very different understanding of the fatality rate, the R naught value of infection rates, the methods of transmissibility, the incubation period, the rate of asymptomatic cases. The list goes on.
> This is a pretty good example of what propaganda is because it demonstrates the moral ambiguity of 'truth, communication and outcomes'.
This is a terrible example because it relies completely on both hindsight bias that people knew then what we know now about a novel virus, and on a basic lack of understanding of how masks even work, failing to understand the statements made about them.
What was true about masks 9 months ago is true now. Wearing a non-N95 mask will do very little to protect you if you are exposed to Covid. Wearing a mask will drastically reduce you transmitting the virus to other people. The mask shouldn’t be seen as an individual prophylactic. The mask should be seen as a collective protection measure.
- thinkingemote 6y agoYour last paragraph is accurate but it's not 1) the sensible line that is being pushed via propaganda or fines, laws etc and 2) what the mask wearing population believe. Social shaming and mass compliance needs exaggeration and propaganda. fear of the stick not think for yourself. Propaganda is necessary in an epidemic.
- 542354234235 6y agoI was not arguing whether or not propaganda should be used. I was only debunking the conspiracy theory that propaganda was used in regards to mask wearing guidance during a rapidly evolving situation involving a novel virus.
- jariel 6y agoFirst - even if my example is wrong (and I don't think it is) you're missing the point on what propaganda is and why it is used. COVID is just an anecdote. Second - our understanding of Corona with respect to masks has not hugely changed to the point wherein that decision would have been otherwise 6 months ago. 1) We know what Coronaviruses are (remember SARS?) 2) Our medical staff have absolutely been wearing masks since day 1. Why? Because obviously we knew they helped in some manner. 3) Asian countries wear masks and have 'done well' very early in the game and have been begging us to mandate masks. 4) We obviously would err on the side of caution and worn masks were it not for the shortage. The only thing that has really changed is the widespread availability of them. So while I do think that 'perspective on masks' has moved a little bit on the policy-making front .... we still knew they could be effective. If Dr. Fauci were being totally transparent 6 months ago in March, he would have said: "Masks can possibly help, but not as much as you think, so wear one if you want, but don't believe that this will protect you to the point of taking other, risky behaviours" But he didn't say that. He literally said: "There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask". Read that again: "There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask". That's a really, really powerful statement from the 'Nations Most Credible Doctor'. A mistake of enormous proportions, one that without the 'shortage caveat' would seem inexcusable, given the otherwise 'low opportunity cost' of asking people to wear them even if they were ineffective. We knew masks could help, but we were more worried about shortages, that was the impetus for the public communications, as an example of 'propaganda'.