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Let’s not conflate fleeing an oppressive regime with actual crimes.

mtnGoat 6y ago
Crime is crime, let's not excuse it. You follow the laws of the country you are in regardless of circumstances in your past, coming from oppressive regime isn't a free ticket.
- valuearb 6y ago
  What Canadian laws are being violated?
  - seemack 6y ago
    Laundering proceeds of crime - https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-462.31.html https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-462.31...
    - valuearb 6y ago
      From your link: “(a) the commission in Canada of a designated offence; or (b) an act or omission anywhere that, if it had occurred in Canada, would have constituted a designated offence.” I wasn’t aware Canada had a $50,000 limit on moving funds from China.
      - seemack 6y ago
        The premise here is evading capital controls. It seems like that would be a crime in Canada.
        valuearb 6y ago
        It isn’t. Free countries don’t enforce the laws of oppressive regimes for them.
buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
This is the second time you've said basically this same thing in this thread. I want to know your reasoning. In your mind, how does living in an oppressive regime allow you to blatantly disobey the law in another, non-oppressive regime.
- valuearb 6y ago
  Because they aren’t violating Canadian laws. They are evading onerous Chinese capital controls instituted by an oppressive regime.
  - avisser 6y ago
    Russian oligarchs probably aren't violating UK laws if they buy property in London either. But I'm fine with laws that make it harder for them. The assumption I make when reading these stories mirrors what I think when I hear the phrase "Russian oligarch" - I'm envisioning connected and well-to-do Chinese who've profited off the authoritarian system they have. I may be wrong in that assumption. But you are assuming that they are victims, rather than co-conspirators in that regime.
    - valuearb 6y ago
      Benjamin Franklin: "it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer." Otto von Bismarck: "it is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape." I guess I know with who your views on justice align.

Crime is crime, let's not excuse it. You follow the laws of the country you are in regardless of circumstances in your past, coming from oppressive regime isn't a free ticket.

valuearb 6y ago
What Canadian laws are being violated?
- seemack 6y ago
  Laundering proceeds of crime - https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-462.31.html https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-462.31...
  - valuearb 6y ago
    From your link: “(a) the commission in Canada of a designated offence; or (b) an act or omission anywhere that, if it had occurred in Canada, would have constituted a designated offence.” I wasn’t aware Canada had a $50,000 limit on moving funds from China.
    - seemack 6y ago
      The premise here is evading capital controls. It seems like that would be a crime in Canada.
      - valuearb 6y ago
        It isn’t. Free countries don’t enforce the laws of oppressive regimes for them.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago

This is the second time you've said basically this same thing in this thread. I want to know your reasoning. In your mind, how does living in an oppressive regime allow you to blatantly disobey the law in another, non-oppressive regime.

valuearb 6y ago
Because they aren’t violating Canadian laws. They are evading onerous Chinese capital controls instituted by an oppressive regime.
- avisser 6y ago
  Russian oligarchs probably aren't violating UK laws if they buy property in London either. But I'm fine with laws that make it harder for them. The assumption I make when reading these stories mirrors what I think when I hear the phrase "Russian oligarch" - I'm envisioning connected and well-to-do Chinese who've profited off the authoritarian system they have. I may be wrong in that assumption. But you are assuming that they are victims, rather than co-conspirators in that regime.
  - valuearb 6y ago
    Benjamin Franklin: "it is better a hundred guilty persons should escape than one innocent person should suffer." Otto von Bismarck: "it is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape." I guess I know with who your views on justice align.