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if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and did it, he/she is smart. if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and failed to so do, he/she is

if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and did it, he/she is smart. if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and failed to so do, he/she is stupid.

ploika 6y ago
Trying and failing doesn't make you stupid.
- xenocratus 6y ago
  It does in a lot of courts of public opinion, unfortunately.
- powerapple 6y ago
  if you keep trying and keep failing, and you do not adapt in the process, it does not make you smart. By failing, we learn and adapt. In theory it would make the next move wiser than previous moves. I agree calling it stupid may not be accurate.
- tartoran 6y ago
  Trying and failing indeed doesn’t make you stupid but in many circumstances, e.g. being poor, makes you stop trying or the feeling of inferiority seeps in. Also the people around you set a background that make it even harder to escape from.
paulryanrogers 6y ago
This assumes equality of opportunity.
dusted 6y ago
That's a stupid definition, and it's wrong. Let's say I want to accumulate wealth, and I play the lottery and win, then, by your definition, I'm smart.
- powerapple 6y ago
  I believe, if you think you can win lottery and did it, you are smarter than average. Why not? Anyway, we are talking about a small percentage of people. I am used to generalization, couldn't help it :) Maybe I should not.
  - dusted 6y ago
    No, if you believe that winning the lottery is a good way to become rich, you're an idiot. If you actually do win, you're a lucky, rich idiot. I'm not against playing the lottery, but it's objectively proven that it's not a good way to become rich, and a persons smartness has no bearing over whether they actually do win (maybe a negative one, smarter people will gamble less).
paradox242 6y ago
Wow, this is just... wow this is wrong. This person is either a troll or their understanding of the world is so simplistic as to render any attempt to correct their misunderstanding pointless. After all, they've already figured everything out, everything is simple, black and white, what would they have to learn from you? One imagines that they are a decade or more away in life experience to even being in a place where they could see that their simple test here does not match reality and only then would they be ready to hear why that is.
zxcmx 6y ago
This seems like a variant of the "just world hypothesis".

if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and did it, he/she is smart. if a person wanted to accumulate wealth/knowledge and failed to so do, he/she is stupid.

ploika 6y ago

Trying and failing doesn't make you stupid.

xenocratus 6y ago
It does in a lot of courts of public opinion, unfortunately.
powerapple 6y ago
if you keep trying and keep failing, and you do not adapt in the process, it does not make you smart. By failing, we learn and adapt. In theory it would make the next move wiser than previous moves. I agree calling it stupid may not be accurate.
tartoran 6y ago
Trying and failing indeed doesn’t make you stupid but in many circumstances, e.g. being poor, makes you stop trying or the feeling of inferiority seeps in. Also the people around you set a background that make it even harder to escape from.

paulryanrogers 6y ago

This assumes equality of opportunity.

dusted 6y ago

That's a stupid definition, and it's wrong. Let's say I want to accumulate wealth, and I play the lottery and win, then, by your definition, I'm smart.

powerapple 6y ago
I believe, if you think you can win lottery and did it, you are smarter than average. Why not? Anyway, we are talking about a small percentage of people. I am used to generalization, couldn't help it :) Maybe I should not.
- dusted 6y ago
  No, if you believe that winning the lottery is a good way to become rich, you're an idiot. If you actually do win, you're a lucky, rich idiot. I'm not against playing the lottery, but it's objectively proven that it's not a good way to become rich, and a persons smartness has no bearing over whether they actually do win (maybe a negative one, smarter people will gamble less).

paradox242 6y ago

Wow, this is just... wow this is wrong. This person is either a troll or their understanding of the world is so simplistic as to render any attempt to correct their misunderstanding pointless. After all, they've already figured everything out, everything is simple, black and white, what would they have to learn from you? One imagines that they are a decade or more away in life experience to even being in a place where they could see that their simple test here does not match reality and only then would they be ready to hear why that is.

zxcmx 6y ago

This seems like a variant of the "just world hypothesis".