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Can someone give me specifics on who's affected by "cancel culture"? It's a meaningless label to me. I mean, I think Bill Cosby has been cancelled. Colin Kaepe

Can someone give me specifics on who's affected by "cancel culture"? It's a meaningless label to me. I mean, I think Bill Cosby has been cancelled. Colin Kaepernick was for kneeling. And the lady who called the police on the black man in central park. Some of those may be unjustified. Is this really the biggest problem in society?

donor20 6y ago
I had a teacher in high school (black). He was an absolute favorite of students of all backgrounds. Extremely strict, very buttoned up. In the arts department. I think he literally was the advisor for like the multi-cultural club (that did somewhat lame lunch multi-cultural stuff). He put on a performance that turned out was racist or sexist or something. Think les miserable - we were always doing stuff like that, so the stories were very varied. Bam, he was gone. Even the students in the group that should have been offended were like, he's great. But there was a very very vocal very small set of more activist parents (white BTW!) with one or two students who were after him. Reminds me of the (white again) liberals in Portland or Seattle going after the police chief to cut her pay etc (black women). I was like, who cares what two parents and their kids think. But they got in the paper talking about the racist (I think?) environment he created / messages being sent / cultural appropriation etc. This is theatre - people dress up as different characters so no question an identity politics issue was there most likely. And yes - he was gone the next year after something like 12 years of building up this amazing program. His performances were sold out for multiple showings (literally everyone in school, every parent, every relative, randos went). The shows were major. All the context was overlooked (this guy was so formal he was never crude / rude or insulting). He'd spent all these extra hours doing all these things to bring different groups together - through music and more (he was an immigrant). Two to three people, a scared / sensitive admin team, and boom, thousands of folks the worse for his going. Everyone is worse for this. A lot of the categories of offense are extremely broad or very subtle and penalties are very severe.
torstenvl 6y ago
USC professor under fire after using Chinese expression students allege sounds like English slur https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-racism-intl-hnk-scli/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-raci... SDG&E Worker Fired Over Alleged Racist Gesture Says He Was Cracking Knuckles https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove... Professors mobbed, stripped of teaching positions and residential life functions after suggesting students should establish their own social norms rather than having them enforced by administration https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-peril-of-writing-a-provocative-email-at-yale/484418/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-per...
shard 6y ago
USC business communications professor Greg Patton was replaced after he used Chinese as an example for pause words that are used in many languages. Phonetically written, the Chinese "Um, um" is "ne ga ne ga", and The Black MBA Candidates Class of 2022 complained to the school, which then removed the professor. Despite counter-protest letters signed by many other students, including many Chinese alumni, who state that the normal usage of the Chinese language should not be viewed as a pejorative, the professor was not reinstated. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-sus...

donor20 6y ago

I had a teacher in high school (black). He was an absolute favorite of students of all backgrounds. Extremely strict, very buttoned up. In the arts department. I think he literally was the advisor for like the multi-cultural club (that did somewhat lame lunch multi-cultural stuff). He put on a performance that turned out was racist or sexist or something. Think les miserable - we were always doing stuff like that, so the stories were very varied. Bam, he was gone. Even the students in the group that should have been offended were like, he's great. But there was a very very vocal very small set of more activist parents (white BTW!) with one or two students who were after him. Reminds me of the (white again) liberals in Portland or Seattle going after the police chief to cut her pay etc (black women). I was like, who cares what two parents and their kids think. But they got in the paper talking about the racist (I think?) environment he created / messages being sent / cultural appropriation etc. This is theatre - people dress up as different characters so no question an identity politics issue was there most likely. And yes - he was gone the next year after something like 12 years of building up this amazing program. His performances were sold out for multiple showings (literally everyone in school, every parent, every relative, randos went). The shows were major. All the context was overlooked (this guy was so formal he was never crude / rude or insulting). He'd spent all these extra hours doing all these things to bring different groups together - through music and more (he was an immigrant). Two to three people, a scared / sensitive admin team, and boom, thousands of folks the worse for his going. Everyone is worse for this. A lot of the categories of offense are extremely broad or very subtle and penalties are very severe.

torstenvl 6y ago

USC professor under fire after using Chinese expression students allege sounds like English slur https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-racism-intl-hnk-scli/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/10/us/usc-chinese-professor-raci... SDG&E Worker Fired Over Alleged Racist Gesture Says He Was Cracking Knuckles https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-over-alleged-racist-gesture-says-he-was-cracking-knuckles/2347414/ https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/sdge-worker-fired-ove... Professors mobbed, stripped of teaching positions and residential life functions after suggesting students should establish their own social norms rather than having them enforced by administration https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-peril-of-writing-a-provocative-email-at-yale/484418/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/the-per...

shard 6y ago

USC business communications professor Greg Patton was replaced after he used Chinese as an example for pause words that are used in many languages. Phonetically written, the Chinese "Um, um" is "ne ga ne ga", and The Black MBA Candidates Class of 2022 complained to the school, which then removed the professor. Despite counter-protest letters signed by many other students, including many Chinese alumni, who state that the normal usage of the Chinese language should not be viewed as a pejorative, the professor was not reinstated. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-sus...