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The politicians pushing the GND do not care about climate change. We need a clean bill that only reduces or outright zeros net carbon output, including carbon
by donw 6y ago
The politicians pushing the GND do not care about climate change.
We need a clean bill that only reduces or outright zeros net carbon output, including carbon generated from imports and exports.
It's no good if we just export pollution somewhere else.
The Green New Deal is not that bill.
It is packed with a massive pile of changes to healthcare, finance, and labor laws which are totally unrelated to addressing carbon emissions. Not to mention the call for Venezuela-style nationalization.
That's a non-starter, and rightly so.
If you can't put aside power-grabs and partisan politics to tackle climate change, then you clearly do not care about fixing climate change.
If the GND passes, the important-to-humans part (carbon) will go to the back of the political bus, and the important-to-the-oligarchs part (more power! more money!) will be put in the drivers' seat.
- abalone 6y agoThat’s a failed theory. This is what happens when you try to address carbon output without looking at healthcare, finance, labor laws and the impacts on the working class: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_movement It failed. We have to approach this as a complex sociopolitical problem and it will likely require some broader changes to our 200 plus year old economic system. (And did you say you think GND calls for more power to oligarchs? That’s a weird take.)
- donw 6y agoThe first line of your linked Wikipedia article[1] reads: > "The yellow vests movement or yellow jackets movement (French: Mouvement des gilets jaunes, pronounced [muvmɑ̃ de ʒilɛ ʒon]) is a populist,[64] grassroots[65] protest movement for economic justice[66]" The goals listed for the movement, also from that article: > Increase in the French minimum wage[37], End to austerity measures[38], Improved standard of living[38], Government transparency and accountability[38], Improved government services for rural areas[38], and Constitutional proposal for Citizens' initiative referendum, including constitutional, legislative, abrogative, and recall initiatives[39] The words "climate change" appear once in the entire article. Looks to me like climate change was told to sit at the back of the political bus. [1] http://archive.today/RGUVx http://archive.today/RGUVx
- abalone 6y agoYou misunderstand. The protest was over environmentally-motivated taxes on fuel which didn’t take into account the impacts on the working class. It was the tax strategy that failed. This was a direct lesson for the crafting of the GND. We must also uplift and include the working class in the economic transformation we must undergo. More detail (linked from the Wikipedia article): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/16/gilet-jaunes-yellow-jackets-protesters-france-standstill https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/16/gilet-jaunes-y...