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Forced is clearly the wrong word, but Microsoft's push to move users of older Windows versions onto 10 was aggressive and, some have argued, wilfully deceptive.

Forced is clearly the wrong word, but Microsoft's push to move users of older Windows versions onto 10 was aggressive and, some have argued, wilfully deceptive. The bottom line is that someone previously using Windows 7 who followed the advice about promptly installing recommended updates would probably now be running Windows 10. To avoid that, you had to know what was going on and actively do something else, and there are plenty of anecdotes of people who tried to do so and still made a mistake somewhere and ended up on 10 when they didn't want to.

justinclift 6y ago
> Forced is clearly the wrong word ... No, it's not. Many users had their Win 7 computer "upgraded" to Win 10 even when they expressly didn't want that to happen.
- Silhouette 6y ago
  I'm literally typing this message on a Windows 7 PC. If Microsoft had forced those to upgrade to Windows 10, how is that possible?
  - justinclift 6y ago
    Even some basic research via any search engine will answer that question. ;)
    - Silhouette 6y ago
      Why would I need to do any research? If the "forced" claim were true, it would be literally impossible for me to be doing what I'm doing right now. Microsoft might have tried to deceive or even coerce users of its older operating systems in order to get them to accept an upgrade. However, the upgrade was not forced, because you could (and some people did) avoid moving to the new version. It does not usefully advance the discussion about Microsoft's behaviour to misrepresent what happened. There's plenty to criticise without the hyperbole, after all.
      - justinclift 6y ago
        > However, the upgrade was not forced ... There are many documented cases of it happening against the users wishes. That you're unwilling to even do a basic search online about this just means, you've already made up your mind. Even though the facts are completely the opposite to what you've decided to believe.

justinclift 6y ago

> Forced is clearly the wrong word ... No, it's not. Many users had their Win 7 computer "upgraded" to Win 10 even when they expressly didn't want that to happen.

Silhouette 6y ago
I'm literally typing this message on a Windows 7 PC. If Microsoft had forced those to upgrade to Windows 10, how is that possible?
- justinclift 6y ago
  Even some basic research via any search engine will answer that question. ;)
  - Silhouette 6y ago
    Why would I need to do any research? If the "forced" claim were true, it would be literally impossible for me to be doing what I'm doing right now. Microsoft might have tried to deceive or even coerce users of its older operating systems in order to get them to accept an upgrade. However, the upgrade was not forced, because you could (and some people did) avoid moving to the new version. It does not usefully advance the discussion about Microsoft's behaviour to misrepresent what happened. There's plenty to criticise without the hyperbole, after all.
    - justinclift 6y ago
      > However, the upgrade was not forced ... There are many documented cases of it happening against the users wishes. That you're unwilling to even do a basic search online about this just means, you've already made up your mind. Even though the facts are completely the opposite to what you've decided to believe.