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I don't think I'd characterize what they've been doing in the CPU market as "catching up" anymore. They caught up to Intel a few years ago. Now they are just

I don't think I'd characterize what they've been doing in the CPU market as "catching up" anymore. They caught up to Intel a few years ago. Now they are just asserting dominance for the immediate future. They've definitely been far behind Nvidia for a while, though. I haven't seriously considered an AMD GPU in almost a decade outside of budget gaming rigs, and even then I ended up going with a used Nvidia card. Hopefully this is enough to give them a serious foothold in the high-end GPU market so they can give Nvidia competition for years to come.

singhkays 6y ago
The reason I say "catch-up" is because before Zen 3, Intel still had an IPC lead. With Zen 3, it's the first time in a decade that AMD is able to claim IPC lead.
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  Intel had a single-threaded performance lead prior to Zen 3 but it's not entirely accurate to say they had an IPC lead. Zen 2 was fairly evenly matched vs. Intel's latest in IPC, but Intel's clock advantage made overall single core performance clearly in their favor. So Zen 2 would be when AMD "caught up." Zen 3 would be where they surpass (assuming reviews match the claims etc etc...)
  - fomine3 6y ago
    Intel's latest top IPC CPU is Ice/Tiger Lake, not Skylake derivatives. So maybe Zen3 is the catch up to Intel.
    - floatboth 6y ago
      WhateverNewLake was not (still is not?) present in the big desktop market, the big power-hungry 5.3GHz desktop chips are all Skylake+++++
p1necone 6y ago
They caught up/surpassed Intel in multithreaded performance with the first gen of Ryzen (of course depending on price point), but until Zen 3 Intel still had the advantage in single threaded perf. And because a lot of games either heavily peg one thread only, or only scale to a small number of threads this meant Intel still had the advantage on most games at a lot of price points. It's only with Zen 3 that Ryzen is beating Intel in single threaded perf as well.

singhkays 6y ago

The reason I say "catch-up" is because before Zen 3, Intel still had an IPC lead. With Zen 3, it's the first time in a decade that AMD is able to claim IPC lead.

kllrnohj 6y ago
Intel had a single-threaded performance lead prior to Zen 3 but it's not entirely accurate to say they had an IPC lead. Zen 2 was fairly evenly matched vs. Intel's latest in IPC, but Intel's clock advantage made overall single core performance clearly in their favor. So Zen 2 would be when AMD "caught up." Zen 3 would be where they surpass (assuming reviews match the claims etc etc...)
- fomine3 6y ago
  Intel's latest top IPC CPU is Ice/Tiger Lake, not Skylake derivatives. So maybe Zen3 is the catch up to Intel.
  - floatboth 6y ago
    WhateverNewLake was not (still is not?) present in the big desktop market, the big power-hungry 5.3GHz desktop chips are all Skylake+++++

p1necone 6y ago

They caught up/surpassed Intel in multithreaded performance with the first gen of Ryzen (of course depending on price point), but until Zen 3 Intel still had the advantage in single threaded perf. And because a lot of games either heavily peg one thread only, or only scale to a small number of threads this meant Intel still had the advantage on most games at a lot of price points. It's only with Zen 3 that Ryzen is beating Intel in single threaded perf as well.