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They claim to have a competitor for the 3090 at a price 30% lower (500$ less). Impressive claim.

pixelpoet 6y ago
I think Nvidia's claim that the 3090 costs anywhere near $1500 is even more bold. They might as well claim it costs $15, for all the good it does anyone actually trying to buy one.
- snvzz 6y ago
  If there's no availability for the NVIDIA cards, and the AMD cards are actually available, what it means in terms of pricing is that the gap is even bigger than $500. Considering these NVIDIA cards have capped FP32/64 performance and don't have ML drivers like Titan series do, the one sensible case for buying them is gone.
  - zamadatix 6y ago
    3090 is still great for rendering workloads where you want the VRAM and ray tracing hardware but don't want to pay the Quadro tax. Other than that though yeah it's just the "don't care about price" performer.
    - snvzz 6y ago
      That's only if the drivers allow for leveraging that. AIUI FP32 and FP64 are gimped.
      - zamadatix 6y ago
        They have some gimped capabilities(I don't think FP32 as that's needed for games) but as I said you don't need any of those features for most 3D rendering tools so it's not worth worrying about the driver, you can see the 3090 wipe the floor with the Titan RTX in rendering workloads here https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-proviz-performance/ https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-proviz-... "it has half <category> performance" doesn't immediately make it worth 4x the money on an uncapped card, especially if your task doesn't involve a capped feature.
ZuLuuuuuu 6y ago
I think some of the price difference is expected because of the memory difference, 24GB vs 16GB. But for gaming up to 4K that memory difference doesn't matter much. I guess RTX 3090 will perform better on other work loads than gaming.
- zamadatix 6y ago
  A marginal amount but remember the only difference between the 6800 XT (16 GB, 72 compute units, $649) and the 6900 XT (16 GB, 80 compute units, $999) is "flagship cost" for the last 8 compute units to be enabled. It's the same story on the 3090, you get the 7th compute cluster enabled and they happened to double the memory. Nothing about that more than doubles the price of the card from the 3080, it's the same "flagship cost" driving price.

I think Nvidia's claim that the 3090 costs anywhere near $1500 is even more bold. They might as well claim it costs $15, for all the good it does anyone actually trying to buy one.

snvzz 6y ago
If there's no availability for the NVIDIA cards, and the AMD cards are actually available, what it means in terms of pricing is that the gap is even bigger than $500. Considering these NVIDIA cards have capped FP32/64 performance and don't have ML drivers like Titan series do, the one sensible case for buying them is gone.
- zamadatix 6y ago
  3090 is still great for rendering workloads where you want the VRAM and ray tracing hardware but don't want to pay the Quadro tax. Other than that though yeah it's just the "don't care about price" performer.
  - snvzz 6y ago
    That's only if the drivers allow for leveraging that. AIUI FP32 and FP64 are gimped.
    - zamadatix 6y ago
      They have some gimped capabilities(I don't think FP32 as that's needed for games) but as I said you don't need any of those features for most 3D rendering tools so it's not worth worrying about the driver, you can see the 3090 wipe the floor with the Titan RTX in rendering workloads here https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-proviz-performance/ https://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-proviz-... "it has half <category> performance" doesn't immediately make it worth 4x the money on an uncapped card, especially if your task doesn't involve a capped feature.

ZuLuuuuuu 6y ago

I think some of the price difference is expected because of the memory difference, 24GB vs 16GB. But for gaming up to 4K that memory difference doesn't matter much. I guess RTX 3090 will perform better on other work loads than gaming.

zamadatix 6y ago
A marginal amount but remember the only difference between the 6800 XT (16 GB, 72 compute units, $649) and the 6900 XT (16 GB, 80 compute units, $999) is "flagship cost" for the last 8 compute units to be enabled. It's the same story on the 3090, you get the 7th compute cluster enabled and they happened to double the memory. Nothing about that more than doubles the price of the card from the 3080, it's the same "flagship cost" driving price.