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My car has the current-edition Toyota/Lexus system. First of all, it's worth saying there're a whole slew of ancillary safety systems beyond the 'nominal case d

My car has the current-edition Toyota/Lexus system. First of all, it's worth saying there're a whole slew of ancillary safety systems beyond the 'nominal case driving' automation, like rear-crossing detection, collision brake assistance, blindspot warning and so on. For the self-driving stuff, I really only use the radar cruise control. The car does have lane self-centering but it's not great at detecting lane boundaries, especially when in bad weather or when there's a lot of traffic. I have that system turned to an advisory mode so it'll beep if I start moving across a lane boundary without a turn signal on. The radar cruise control is very solid. My only real complaint about it is that it leaves a large gap at low speed; even when in its tightest-follow mode. You can end up getting people merging in front of you, which then causes it to generate an even larger gap. It will take off from a stop, but if it's a long stop it wants you to hit a resume button. I understand how the systems work at this point, they don't surprise me, and they help with fatigue. I'm generally an attentive driver (I know, we all say that) so I'm OK with the limitations. I don't really want any more. Very anecdotally, the last time I tried a lane-following system (an Audi rental about two years ago), it tried to kill me by following the off-ramp into a gas station at 65mph.

wil421 6y ago
Is adaptive cruise control considered self driving? I always thought it was driver assist feature like the original cruise control and blind spot monitoring. Surprisingly it’s been around for almost 30 years and Mitsubishi was using Lidar way back in ‘91. https://www.autonomousvehicleinternational.com/features/adas-3.html https://www.autonomousvehicleinternational.com/features/adas...
- Rebelgecko 6y ago
  Because the car throttles itself up and down appropriately, which at least for me is the main annoyance when driving in traffic. IIRC, rear end collisions due to innatentive driving are also the most common type of car accident
  - NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
    The other thing to bear in mind is that the capability is way higher now than in the past, despite the feature having the same name. It works perfectly with multiple lanes of closely-spaced traffic, through bends, bad weather etc. It actually uses the brakes rather than just engine-braking when necessary. It works well enough in stop-and-go traffic. It doesn't lose its mind if people merge in front of you.
- chris11 6y ago
  I wouldn't consider it self driving. But the hw for LKA and adaptive cruise control can do a lot. That's all that Comma AI's Open Pilot needs, and a Toyota with TSS 2.0 is considered the best platform for Open Pilot. I definitely wouldn't say it's self driving but using Open Pilot gives you a really nice hands free experience driving on the highway.

wil421 6y ago

Is adaptive cruise control considered self driving? I always thought it was driver assist feature like the original cruise control and blind spot monitoring. Surprisingly it’s been around for almost 30 years and Mitsubishi was using Lidar way back in ‘91. https://www.autonomousvehicleinternational.com/features/adas-3.html https://www.autonomousvehicleinternational.com/features/adas...

Rebelgecko 6y ago
Because the car throttles itself up and down appropriately, which at least for me is the main annoyance when driving in traffic. IIRC, rear end collisions due to innatentive driving are also the most common type of car accident
- NovemberWhiskey 6y ago
  The other thing to bear in mind is that the capability is way higher now than in the past, despite the feature having the same name. It works perfectly with multiple lanes of closely-spaced traffic, through bends, bad weather etc. It actually uses the brakes rather than just engine-braking when necessary. It works well enough in stop-and-go traffic. It doesn't lose its mind if people merge in front of you.
chris11 6y ago
I wouldn't consider it self driving. But the hw for LKA and adaptive cruise control can do a lot. That's all that Comma AI's Open Pilot needs, and a Toyota with TSS 2.0 is considered the best platform for Open Pilot. I definitely wouldn't say it's self driving but using Open Pilot gives you a really nice hands free experience driving on the highway.