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I'm not sure how GitLab is a better option. China could pressure them too.
by simlevesque 6y ago
I'm not sure how GitLab is a better option. China could pressure them too.
- haolez 6y agoGitLab is open source and can be self-hosted by Wikimedia.
- detaro 6y agoThey're selfhosting.
- simlevesque 6y agoOh I get it now thank you. I had read only the outcome part.
- addicted 6y agoIs this GitLab open source, or is it GitLab enterprise on the free plan? Because they are different products, even if the GitLab marketing pages make it appear as if they are the same.
- simlevesque 6y agoCommunity Edition.
- bastardoperator 6y agoYou can self host GitHub too
- meesles 6y agoSource? I don't think that's true. Github has on-premises enterprise solutions but one should not confuse that with running free and open software on your own machines - https://enterprise.github.com/faq https://enterprise.github.com/faq
- bastardoperator 6y agoI personally don't think anyone would confuse it, but the fact remains, you can host self GitHub. Maybe it costs, maybe it has string attached but ultimately the functionality is there... which makes it true.
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoIf you pay the enterprise fee, which is likely an X amount per seat. They MIGHT give it out for free to Wikimedia as a favor / goodwill, but there will be strings attached. (I'm not saying Gitlab doesn't have strings attached)
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- parliament32 6y agoIt's not open source, at best they ship you a locked down VM image to run yourself. Edit: Confirmed, "GitHub Enterprise is delivered as a virtual appliance that includes all software required to get up and running. The only additional software required is a compatible virtual machine environment." https://enterprise.github.com/faq https://enterprise.github.com/faq
- saxonww 6y agoThis is not true, they publish the code at https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab. If you want to use premium features, you do have to pay to unlock them, and depending on your deployment you would need to get the gitlab-ee image instead of the gitlab-ce one.
- wizzwizz4 6y agoWe're talking about GitHub.
- parliament32 6y agohttps://enterprise.github.com/faq https://enterprise.github.com/faq
- marcinzm 6y agoWhich costs $21/user/month versus $0 for the free plan and $4 for the team plan. That's a steep price increase.
- bredren 6y agoI was able to see Wikipedia uses something called openstack, but not the details of what infrastructure they host on. Anyone know what facilities these repos will ultimately be served from?
- easton 6y agoWikimedia uses colocated boxes around the world at different providers, and the user facing stuff is backed by Cloudflare. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers
- bawolff 6y agoThe user facing stuff is not backed by cloudflare (Cloudflare's magic transit has at some points been used to mitigate DDOS attacks at the IP layer, but otherwise cloudflare is not used. Wikimedia operates (its own) varnish servers in virginia, texas, san francisco, singapore and amsterdam to do frontend caching.)
- bawolff 6y agoOpenstack is used for wikimedia cloud, which is a project to give volunteers compute resources to do cool projects (this includes domains wmcloud.org toolserver.org and wmflabs.org). Production does not use openstack. Things like code review tools would be hosted in Virginia [eqiad] (with backup in texas [codfw]) on hardware owned by the Wikimedia Foundation. Docs about how gerrit is hosted https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gerrit https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gerrit if you want to know nitty gritty details see also https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet https://github.com/wikimedia/puppet
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- snnn 6y agoGitlab has no business in China.