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Windows is broken spyware.

by rado 6y ago

sdoering 6y ago
Well. Being in a corporate job (agency I work for got bought some years back and we need to have compliance with the corp requirements) I can say that my Mac and my Win devices have the same level of spyware. While at least on Windows every program (as far as I am aware) follows firewall rules without circumvention. Not so on a Mac were Apple tools like the store circumvent the firewall rules I set up [1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816 So I believe both platforms are problematic. Does Windows try to do way more data collection by default? Sadly yes. Is Mac without fault? Sadly no.
jmnicolas 6y ago
No it's the opposite: Windows is a functioning spyware.
- rado 6y ago
  Yes, functional spyware with broken UI. A dark mode explorer window is drawn in light mode for a split second and then painted black. It's ridiculous.
  - jmnicolas 6y ago
    Sorry I can't comment on that, I'm probably the last person on earth that doesn't use dark mode.
    - andjd 6y ago
      It's good to know there are at least two!
  - kevingadd 6y ago
    That's not true on current Win10, I've never seen it before. What build are you using? Are you connected over RDP or something?
    - rado 6y ago
      It is true, because I've seen it. Recent build, direct PC use. Windows is a patch over patch over patch.
  - blntechie 6y ago
    I see the same behavior on an external display connected MacBook with Safari. Split second day mode before dark mode. Same for videos from YouTube in Safari when they go full screen. I use Windows 10 for work and Mac OS for personal use and both have their share of quirkiness and bugs. Mac OS is way more mouse based UI and interestingly no one complains about it.
    - sedivy94 6y ago
      Personally, I heavily rely on gesture-based navigation on MacBooks. An equivalent trackpad for Windows laptops is nowhere to be found. It's a huge selling point for me, and it's a shame that there's little-to-no competition in that regard.
  - PostThisTooFast 6y ago
    Which is pathetic because for decades Windows had user-definable color schemes at the system level, which all properly-written apps easily adopted. Just before people finally realized how stupid inverse color schemes are, Microsoft got rid of the whole thing.

Windows is broken spyware.

by rado 6y ago

Windows is broken spyware.

Well. Being in a corporate job (agency I work for got bought some years back and we need to have compliance with the corp requirements) I can say that my Mac and my Win devices have the same level of spyware. While at least on Windows every program (as far as I am aware) follows firewall rules without circumvention. Not so on a Mac were Apple tools like the store circumvent the firewall rules I set up [1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24838816 So I believe both platforms are problematic. Does Windows try to do way more data collection by default? Sadly yes. Is Mac without fault? Sadly no.

jmnicolas 6y ago

No it's the opposite: Windows is a functioning spyware.

rado 6y ago
Yes, functional spyware with broken UI. A dark mode explorer window is drawn in light mode for a split second and then painted black. It's ridiculous.
- jmnicolas 6y ago
  Sorry I can't comment on that, I'm probably the last person on earth that doesn't use dark mode.
  - andjd 6y ago
    It's good to know there are at least two!
- kevingadd 6y ago
  That's not true on current Win10, I've never seen it before. What build are you using? Are you connected over RDP or something?
  - rado 6y ago
    It is true, because I've seen it. Recent build, direct PC use. Windows is a patch over patch over patch.
- blntechie 6y ago
  I see the same behavior on an external display connected MacBook with Safari. Split second day mode before dark mode. Same for videos from YouTube in Safari when they go full screen. I use Windows 10 for work and Mac OS for personal use and both have their share of quirkiness and bugs. Mac OS is way more mouse based UI and interestingly no one complains about it.
  - sedivy94 6y ago
    Personally, I heavily rely on gesture-based navigation on MacBooks. An equivalent trackpad for Windows laptops is nowhere to be found. It's a huge selling point for me, and it's a shame that there's little-to-no competition in that regard.
- PostThisTooFast 6y ago
  Which is pathetic because for decades Windows had user-definable color schemes at the system level, which all properly-written apps easily adopted. Just before people finally realized how stupid inverse color schemes are, Microsoft got rid of the whole thing.