5 ms·

It’s snappy for a web app. If it was a native app it would be mediocre.

shp0ngle 6y ago
the thing with web apps is - it's slow, but it is the Java's original goal from the 90s "write once, run everywhere" actually realized. Plus, built-in collaborativeness and automatic updates. And, easier to get developers. Native is nice, native is fast, and it will have its place (compare how bad is Google Meet compared to Zoom with respect to CPU/RAM), but web is becoming "good enough".
- andrekandre 6y ago
  > write once, run everywhere thats rarely true for complex web apps... (doubly true if your using firefox)
- arrayjumper 6y ago
  > Native is nice, native is fast Only if you are using a Mac. On linux, the zoom client is neither fast nor (in my admittedly slightly subjective opinion) nice.
  - monsieurbanana 6y ago
    That's an interesting anecdote, as I've only used zoom on linux, but not really related to what you quoted.
    - arrayjumper 6y ago
      Interesting. I'm curious what machine spec you're on. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on an dell laptop (XPS 7590 with an i9 processor, 32gb ram, discrete Nvidia graphics card). I see my processor spin up to 90% utilization whenever I do a zoom call.
  - WolfRazu 6y ago
    Zoom is Electron isn't it? That's not native.
    - shp0ngle 6y ago
      No, it's native. At least on Mac. edit: judging by `strings`, it's Objective C/Cocoa app on Mac. As native as it can be. No idea on Linux.
      - Johan-bjareholt 6y ago
        It's Electron on Linux and what's being discussed is that it's slow on Linux. Nobody refuted that it's slow on macOS, it was even stated.
        shp0ngle 6y ago
        I will need to check if you’re right. edit just judged on dependencies of the deb package, it looks like a native app. But, I will check the actual app. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux?mobile_site=true#h_89c268b4-2a68-4e4c-882f-441e374b87cb https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installi...

the thing with web apps is - it's slow, but it is the Java's original goal from the 90s "write once, run everywhere" actually realized. Plus, built-in collaborativeness and automatic updates. And, easier to get developers. Native is nice, native is fast, and it will have its place (compare how bad is Google Meet compared to Zoom with respect to CPU/RAM), but web is becoming "good enough".

andrekandre 6y ago
> write once, run everywhere thats rarely true for complex web apps... (doubly true if your using firefox)
arrayjumper 6y ago
> Native is nice, native is fast Only if you are using a Mac. On linux, the zoom client is neither fast nor (in my admittedly slightly subjective opinion) nice.
- monsieurbanana 6y ago
  That's an interesting anecdote, as I've only used zoom on linux, but not really related to what you quoted.
  - arrayjumper 6y ago
    Interesting. I'm curious what machine spec you're on. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 on an dell laptop (XPS 7590 with an i9 processor, 32gb ram, discrete Nvidia graphics card). I see my processor spin up to 90% utilization whenever I do a zoom call.
- WolfRazu 6y ago
  Zoom is Electron isn't it? That's not native.
  - shp0ngle 6y ago
    No, it's native. At least on Mac. edit: judging by `strings`, it's Objective C/Cocoa app on Mac. As native as it can be. No idea on Linux.
    - Johan-bjareholt 6y ago
      It's Electron on Linux and what's being discussed is that it's slow on Linux. Nobody refuted that it's slow on macOS, it was even stated.
      - shp0ngle 6y ago
        I will need to check if you’re right. edit just judged on dependencies of the deb package, it looks like a native app. But, I will check the actual app. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux?mobile_site=true#h_89c268b4-2a68-4e4c-882f-441e374b87cb https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installi...