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Send the “not loyal” officers to places where your friends in the foreign countries can neutralize them and make them ineffective to the point of quitting. Nah

Send the “not loyal” officers to places where your friends in the foreign countries can neutralize them and make them ineffective to the point of quitting. Nah, that would be too convenient. Also Pompeo said the suggestion is “patently false”. So there you have it folks.

jorblumesea 6y ago
Why would you "neutralize" an entire embassy of employees, many of which are state department and not even CIA? Cuba, for example. A far more prosaic explanation is that Russia plays dirty. Is it that unrealistic to think a nation that sends "little green men" to carve off parts of sovereign nations, is above disruptive methods?
- XorNot 6y ago
  Why did Richard Armitage and Scooter Libby conspire to burn Valerie Plame? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame) The history of intelligence officers being screwed over in the interests of internal politics anywhere in the world is a long and storied one.
- Threeve303 6y ago
  All Valid points. We can only really speculate since any information that could answer it definitively is not available. For example, how many officers or operatives have come back from these countries with no symptoms. Is it simply people whose job it is to keep an eye on Russia? Or maybe it’s more weighted towards people with certain known political views. It could be as simple as Russia watching Pompeo tear down the state department and then saying, let’s do that to the CIA too.
  - chrisco255 6y ago
    The president can just fire people. There's hundreds of agents and state officials in Russia. You're falling for the journalist's framing of the story while only having an extremely tiny window into the big picture and all sides of the story...and you're extrapolating from there.
    - Threeve303 6y ago
      Yeah I agree. I’d just say I’m not falling for the journalists framing so much as applying past behavior to current events. It’s difficult not to be cynical when looking at the general state of things.
- p1esk 6y ago
  He said he was having meetings with his Russian counterparts. So it does not really make sense for them to hurt him if they want to meet him. A better explanation, suggested in the article, is that it could be some attempt to hack his phone.

jorblumesea 6y ago

Why would you "neutralize" an entire embassy of employees, many of which are state department and not even CIA? Cuba, for example. A far more prosaic explanation is that Russia plays dirty. Is it that unrealistic to think a nation that sends "little green men" to carve off parts of sovereign nations, is above disruptive methods?

XorNot 6y ago
Why did Richard Armitage and Scooter Libby conspire to burn Valerie Plame? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame) The history of intelligence officers being screwed over in the interests of internal politics anywhere in the world is a long and storied one.
Threeve303 6y ago
All Valid points. We can only really speculate since any information that could answer it definitively is not available. For example, how many officers or operatives have come back from these countries with no symptoms. Is it simply people whose job it is to keep an eye on Russia? Or maybe it’s more weighted towards people with certain known political views. It could be as simple as Russia watching Pompeo tear down the state department and then saying, let’s do that to the CIA too.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  The president can just fire people. There's hundreds of agents and state officials in Russia. You're falling for the journalist's framing of the story while only having an extremely tiny window into the big picture and all sides of the story...and you're extrapolating from there.
  - Threeve303 6y ago
    Yeah I agree. I’d just say I’m not falling for the journalists framing so much as applying past behavior to current events. It’s difficult not to be cynical when looking at the general state of things.
p1esk 6y ago
He said he was having meetings with his Russian counterparts. So it does not really make sense for them to hurt him if they want to meet him. A better explanation, suggested in the article, is that it could be some attempt to hack his phone.