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A lot of Mac users do. We chose the platform because of it, among other things. I hate that WhatsApp, Skype and other crap Electron apps that I’m forced to use

A lot of Mac users do. We chose the platform because of it, among other things. I hate that WhatsApp, Skype and other crap Electron apps that I’m forced to use because of other people can’t do simple things like propor multi language spell checking that macOS has had since day one and that every other app gets for free.

diebeforei485 6y ago
I think the killer feature of macs with Apple Silicon is that the iPad versions of Slack and Discord would "just work" and people wouldn't have to deal with Electron crap anymore.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Until the companies running them disable the ability to run those…
- vijaybritto 6y ago
  Discord is made out of React native I think. The performance is incredible most of the times. Sometimes it goes crazy and uses 100% CPU for a long time as if there's a while loop somewhere. And with Apple Silicon, Im not sure that the restriction right now is architecture. Swift supports both x86 and ARM right? The problem is that the interactions are different in the desktop OS and simply recompiling or running it on desktop would not be a great experience.
  - diebeforei485 6y ago
    Apple Silicon macs can run iOS/iPadOS binaries natively, no recompilation and no Catalyst needed. I think the experience of iPad apps will be just fine.
- yoz-y 6y ago
  I’ll believe the story that these will be any good when Catalyst apps will start behaving like native apps. If developers can’t bother making a native experience with frameworks that are meant to do this, I don’t think they will with an even simpler paradigm. My canary in the coal mine: Apple’s own SF Symbols.
  - andrekandre 6y ago
    > start behaving like native apps intuitively, it would seem apples answer is to make mac apps behave/look like ipad/catalyst appe (e.g big sur's uo redesign)
  - diebeforei485 6y ago
    This has nothing to do with Catalyst. Apple Silicon macs will natively run the exact same binary as the iOS version, no Catalyst needed.
    - yoz-y 6y ago
      No. But a native iOS version will be even less (aka not at all) optimised for macOS than a catalyst app. My point is that devs using catalyst don’t respect any of the macOS idiosyncrasies so why would they when they write iOS apps? An Electron app would still be better than a iOS version optimised for a big thumb.
greggman3 6y ago
Both WhatsApp and Skype have web versions that, at least for me, work just fine. And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS
- Razengan 6y ago
  > And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS But Chrome is a klackety resource hog compared to Safari. Web versions of native apps always feel clunky in comparison and they're almost always missing features, like accessibility.
- tambourine_man 6y ago
  >And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS Please substantiate this claim. To me, the opposite is true.
jmgao 6y ago
> can’t do simple things like propor multi language spell checking lol
- tambourine_man 6y ago
  See? I need it bad.
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
I consider the built in spell check to be of the greatest features of MacOS and I'm furious when apps either change the way their inputs work so you lose the feature or even worse add their own dumbed down bespoke solution in it's place. Worth noting Sketch broke spell check many versions back around the time I stopped using it.

diebeforei485 6y ago

I think the killer feature of macs with Apple Silicon is that the iPad versions of Slack and Discord would "just work" and people wouldn't have to deal with Electron crap anymore.

saagarjha 6y ago
Until the companies running them disable the ability to run those…
vijaybritto 6y ago
Discord is made out of React native I think. The performance is incredible most of the times. Sometimes it goes crazy and uses 100% CPU for a long time as if there's a while loop somewhere. And with Apple Silicon, Im not sure that the restriction right now is architecture. Swift supports both x86 and ARM right? The problem is that the interactions are different in the desktop OS and simply recompiling or running it on desktop would not be a great experience.
- diebeforei485 6y ago
  Apple Silicon macs can run iOS/iPadOS binaries natively, no recompilation and no Catalyst needed. I think the experience of iPad apps will be just fine.
yoz-y 6y ago
I’ll believe the story that these will be any good when Catalyst apps will start behaving like native apps. If developers can’t bother making a native experience with frameworks that are meant to do this, I don’t think they will with an even simpler paradigm. My canary in the coal mine: Apple’s own SF Symbols.
- andrekandre 6y ago
  > start behaving like native apps intuitively, it would seem apples answer is to make mac apps behave/look like ipad/catalyst appe (e.g big sur's uo redesign)
- diebeforei485 6y ago
  This has nothing to do with Catalyst. Apple Silicon macs will natively run the exact same binary as the iOS version, no Catalyst needed.
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    No. But a native iOS version will be even less (aka not at all) optimised for macOS than a catalyst app. My point is that devs using catalyst don’t respect any of the macOS idiosyncrasies so why would they when they write iOS apps? An Electron app would still be better than a iOS version optimised for a big thumb.

greggman3 6y ago

Both WhatsApp and Skype have web versions that, at least for me, work just fine. And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS

Razengan 6y ago
> And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS But Chrome is a klackety resource hog compared to Safari. Web versions of native apps always feel clunky in comparison and they're almost always missing features, like accessibility.
tambourine_man 6y ago
>And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS Please substantiate this claim. To me, the opposite is true.

jmgao 6y ago

> can’t do simple things like propor multi language spell checking lol

tambourine_man 6y ago
See? I need it bad.

whywhywhywhy 6y ago

I consider the built in spell check to be of the greatest features of MacOS and I'm furious when apps either change the way their inputs work so you lose the feature or even worse add their own dumbed down bespoke solution in it's place. Worth noting Sketch broke spell check many versions back around the time I stopped using it.