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Design is a team sport, so what you need to ask yourself is does the whole team prefer to use a native mac app vs browser? RIP sketch

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jonmy 6y ago
Meh, "design is a team sport" - great, everyone gets to jump in and play decorator and backseat drive. There are a lot of people with knives, but that doesn't make them a brain surgeon. My design team and myself will take the sanctity of a native app to create quality work any day versus a "design" free for all in the browser with everyone playing decorator.
- danielrd 6y ago
  Except teams benefits from Figma far more than on sketch. Design systems, plugins, multiplayer for holding critique/retros/planning, version control, etc put Figma far ahead of Sketch. I manage a design team and there’s no way in hell we would go back to Sketch. To even think that having a “native” app has any bearing isn’t accurate at all. Sketch is so slow compared to Figma. You aren’t using multiplayer everyday but when you do need it, there’s nothing like it.
  - sizzle 6y ago
    Adobe XD does all these things and has Miro integration for seamless collaboration and works in windows and Mac. Any reason why I would use Figma instead?
    - SebastianKra 6y ago
      I think Adobe's business strategy is a compelling reason. Knowing that they had a monopoly on creative software, they raised the prices to the point of completely locking out a significant portion of their userbase. If they could, they would do the same to XD.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    > plugins Seeing you write this, a doubt creeps that you ever used Sketch.
- whywhywhywhy 6y ago
  Definitely agree these sort of tools only help you if you have a functioning team, but this goes across everything. Had a manager come close to what I would consider bullying in my Google Docs before, would have been a complete nightmare using Figma with him, I would have outright refused to use it. But if your team itself is functioning well and has respect for each others input it works well.
valuearb 6y ago
Since when? I’m a mobile developer, which means I consume Figma designs, I don’t change them. And Sketch works much better for my needs.
nbzso 6y ago
First, to say Design is sport is stupid beyond comprehension, second, implementation and optimisation are not design. Decorate your apps and be happy, but please stop with this nonsense. Every design project has a starting concept, initial design idea generated from one person - the designer. One. Not team.
- snarkypixel 6y ago
  >> First, to say Design is sport is stupid beyond comprehension Agree to disagree (without calling it stupid beyond comprehension). Design is so much more than final UI. It's the whole experience, how it works and how it's distributed. And that involves a lot of stakeholders, not just one designer.
  - nbzso 6y ago
    So why buy Herman Miller design, or Ive design. Implementation can include lot of stakeholders, and again this is not sport in any meaning. Definition of sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.

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jonmy 6y ago

Meh, "design is a team sport" - great, everyone gets to jump in and play decorator and backseat drive. There are a lot of people with knives, but that doesn't make them a brain surgeon. My design team and myself will take the sanctity of a native app to create quality work any day versus a "design" free for all in the browser with everyone playing decorator.

danielrd 6y ago
Except teams benefits from Figma far more than on sketch. Design systems, plugins, multiplayer for holding critique/retros/planning, version control, etc put Figma far ahead of Sketch. I manage a design team and there’s no way in hell we would go back to Sketch. To even think that having a “native” app has any bearing isn’t accurate at all. Sketch is so slow compared to Figma. You aren’t using multiplayer everyday but when you do need it, there’s nothing like it.
- sizzle 6y ago
  Adobe XD does all these things and has Miro integration for seamless collaboration and works in windows and Mac. Any reason why I would use Figma instead?
  - SebastianKra 6y ago
    I think Adobe's business strategy is a compelling reason. Knowing that they had a monopoly on creative software, they raised the prices to the point of completely locking out a significant portion of their userbase. If they could, they would do the same to XD.
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  > plugins Seeing you write this, a doubt creeps that you ever used Sketch.
whywhywhywhy 6y ago
Definitely agree these sort of tools only help you if you have a functioning team, but this goes across everything. Had a manager come close to what I would consider bullying in my Google Docs before, would have been a complete nightmare using Figma with him, I would have outright refused to use it. But if your team itself is functioning well and has respect for each others input it works well.

valuearb 6y ago

Since when? I’m a mobile developer, which means I consume Figma designs, I don’t change them. And Sketch works much better for my needs.

nbzso 6y ago

First, to say Design is sport is stupid beyond comprehension, second, implementation and optimisation are not design. Decorate your apps and be happy, but please stop with this nonsense. Every design project has a starting concept, initial design idea generated from one person - the designer. One. Not team.

snarkypixel 6y ago
>> First, to say Design is sport is stupid beyond comprehension Agree to disagree (without calling it stupid beyond comprehension). Design is so much more than final UI. It's the whole experience, how it works and how it's distributed. And that involves a lot of stakeholders, not just one designer.
- nbzso 6y ago
  So why buy Herman Miller design, or Ive design. Implementation can include lot of stakeholders, and again this is not sport in any meaning. Definition of sport: An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.