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Foundry sale price of $238/chip seems way too high. See e.g. https://www.cultofmac.com/658650/iphone-11-pro-max-production-cost-bill-materials-bom/ https://www
by tpmx 6y ago
Foundry sale price of $238/chip seems way too high.
See e.g. https://www.cultofmac.com/658650/iphone-11-pro-max-production-cost-bill-materials-bom/ https://www.cultofmac.com/658650/iphone-11-pro-max-productio...
> Apple A13 processor that (is) supposedly is priced at $64.
- grenoire 6y agoSomebody has to do it and Apple has the cash, I think they can afford to.
- samatman 6y agoThat is apparently the price to assure that Apple is the only purveyor in town with a 5nm process chip. Worth it? Apple thinks so.
- wmf 6y agoApple doesn't have an exclusive on 5 nm; it's also being used by Kirin 9000, Snapdragon 875, some Exynos, and a future Dimensity SoC.
- samatman 6y agoI'm not sure how to square that claim with this sort of article: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/315186-apple-books-tsmcs-entire-5nm-production-capability https://www.extremetech.com/computing/315186-apple-books-tsm...
- SSLy 6y agoI believe it's about the remaining fab capacity that was available at that time
- grandmczeb 6y agoSnapdragon 875 is 5nm, but on Samsung's process not TSMC's[1]. [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/272139/samsung-foundry-to-become-sole-manufacturer-of-qualcomm-snapdragon-875-on-5-nm-euv-manufacturing-process https://www.techpowerup.com/272139/samsung-foundry-to-become...
- wmf 6y agoThere's also Samsung 5 nm.
- sroussey 6y agoRumors. Qualcomm is using TMSC 5nm for the x60 this year to be used in products Q1 next year. Same rumors. Though Apple will be using X60 on iPhone 13, so maybe a relation?
- throwaway4good 6y agoThe article is obviously wrong.
- twoodfin 6y agoYeah, that $238/chip figure can't possibly be right. Apple's putting this chip in a $700 phone with at least a 50% margin. They're not blowing more than half the BoM on the SoC.
- gruez 6y agoThe $238/chip figure probably isn't for the A14 specifically, considering that it's a chart from an unrelated report[1] >The model is based on an imaginary 5nm chip the size of Nvidia's P100 GPU (610 mm2, 90.7 billion transistors at 148.2 MTr/mm2). [1] https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/AI-Chips%E2%80%94What-They-Are-and-Why-They-Matter.pdf#page=45 https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/AI-Chips%E2%8...
- throwaway4good 6y agoIn 2004 the cost pr. chip was $2,433 which doesn't make sense either. Is there a way to read the original report that this post was based upon?