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Same. I mean I understand how it works but I ask myself what's the point every time. I've looked into react and I hate how it works and I hate how every 2 month

by deft 6y ago

Same. I mean I understand how it works but I ask myself what's the point every time. I've looked into react and I hate how it works and I hate how every 2 months people are begging for some new optimization because its slow and sucks. Then version 5000 is released and fixes that slowdown, but every react site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell.

archarios 6y ago
*laughs in modern web development
jmondi 6y ago
> but every react site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell This is just as asinine as saying "every Ruby on Rails site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell". No, every terribly coded site youve used is slow as hell.
- fraktl 6y ago
  Which means that React attracts people who aren't really developers but they want to jump in on the hype train, right?
  - edgyquant 6y ago
    No. People have said this about every web framework since PHP5 and its not true. Web development does tend to favor fast iteration which can lead to problems if the tech debt compounds but that doesn’t mean the people aren’t developers, at all.
    - fraktl 6y ago
      So what you're saying is that React spawned an army of people who we can call developers, despite them not knowing how browsers and HTTP works, what algorithms are, how to approach developing your javascript app so it doesn't become spaghetti mess in 24 seconds and abusing terminology from systems programming just in order to make their field appear more serious than it is? Now, what word could we use for people who are not.. well, "developers"? Programmers maybe?
      - edgyquant 6y ago
        They literally are developers stop gate keeping its ignorant
      - archarios 6y ago
        Wow, holy hell. I hope I never have to work with you.
dntrkv 6y ago
> hate how it works > its slow and sucks > every react site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell Next time try to come up with some rational, objective criticism instead of just hurling insults at the most popular frontend framework. There is a reason people use it, and believe it or not, it's not due to hype.

by deft 6y ago

archarios 6y ago

*laughs in modern web development

jmondi 6y ago

> but every react site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell This is just as asinine as saying "every Ruby on Rails site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell". No, every terribly coded site youve used is slow as hell.

fraktl 6y ago
Which means that React attracts people who aren't really developers but they want to jump in on the hype train, right?
- edgyquant 6y ago
  No. People have said this about every web framework since PHP5 and its not true. Web development does tend to favor fast iteration which can lead to problems if the tech debt compounds but that doesn’t mean the people aren’t developers, at all.
  - fraktl 6y ago
    So what you're saying is that React spawned an army of people who we can call developers, despite them not knowing how browsers and HTTP works, what algorithms are, how to approach developing your javascript app so it doesn't become spaghetti mess in 24 seconds and abusing terminology from systems programming just in order to make their field appear more serious than it is? Now, what word could we use for people who are not.. well, "developers"? Programmers maybe?
    - edgyquant 6y ago
      They literally are developers stop gate keeping its ignorant
    - archarios 6y ago
      Wow, holy hell. I hope I never have to work with you.

dntrkv 6y ago

> hate how it works > its slow and sucks > every react site I've ever used is still buggy and slow as hell Next time try to come up with some rational, objective criticism instead of just hurling insults at the most popular frontend framework. There is a reason people use it, and believe it or not, it's not due to hype.