> I don't see widespread criticism against US non-state companies BECAUSE of their involvement with the US. I do. The NSA comes up all the damn time. As it sho

> I don't see widespread criticism against US non-state companies BECAUSE of their involvement with the US. I do. The NSA comes up all the damn time. As it should. > I don't see many people calling for the banning of US non-state companies. People don't call for it because they just do it. It's not controversial. It was half of China's strategy and it has worked out spectacularly well for them because the US turned the other cheek. > I don't see US students and researchers being ousted out of other countries for being potential spies, even though there's no proof. If there's no proof, it's really an economic thing, not a spy thing. I got kicked out of Cambridge because my prospective PhD advisor had chosen to fund me with a grant that, it turned out, was exclusive to EU citizens. Outside the US this sort of protectionism doesn't merely exist, it exists and isn't controversial. > Calling out the CCP, and blanket banning all Chinese companies, are not at all the same thing, or even on the same level. We do the former because it's right and the latter because it's in our rational self interest. Just like China.