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So it appears sea level rise is nothing new? Who would have thought. The sea levels have been rising for thousands of years, since the last ice age. You would

So it appears sea level rise is nothing new? Who would have thought. The sea levels have been rising for thousands of years, since the last ice age. You would be able to walk to the UK from the EU.

TimWillebrands 6y ago
From the EU
- the-dude 6y ago
  I beg your pardon, from mainland Europe.
vanderZwan 6y ago
Nowhere does the article mention anything about sea levels, so maybe don't jump to those conclusions. The land itself can also rise or sink, and that is more likely to be the case when it comes to the history of this region. The villages in the Netherlands (and northern Germany, and Denmark) always were already perilously close to being below sea level to begin with. We're talking about a flat former river delta with extremely wet soil. Remove water from it for agricultural activities through drains and pumps and the land sinks. That is why the villages existed on artificial mounds to protect them from floodwaters (known as a "terp"). So villages like these were more likely to be abandoned due to agricultural activities making the land sink so much that they flooded all the time, which would make the villages themselves not worth living in. Tangent: The website linked in your profile suggests that you're Dutch like me. If so, honest question: did they not mention this in your high school history classes? I grew up in Friesland and it would be interesting if that turned out to be more like a part of the "regional" than the "national" history curriculum. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terp
- the-dude 6y ago
  Oh, they sure did mention the sea level rise since the ice age, the suspected habitats in Doggerland ( 050, Praedinius ). And the Romans, them too.
  - vanderZwan 6y ago
    That's relevant information, but answering a different question than I asked. (Also, the Romans would not be able to distinguish sea levels rising from land sinking)
    - the-dude 6y ago
      Sure about that? Their long aquaducts suggests they might have.
Fnoord 6y ago
I'm from The Netherlands. In geography class (some 25 years ago) I learned there is a geographical border going from approx south west Netherlands to north east Netherlands. Imagine from Zeeland to Nijmegen to Groningen, approx. Above that border, everything gets lower. Under that border, everything goes higher. I don't remember the cause of it. I remember rivers bringing a lot of mud with them over time but not sure if related. Also Zuiderzee (after Afsluitdijk remade into IJsselmeer) had floods which is why Afsluitdijk as part of the Zuiderzeewerken was build in the first place. Also look up Mr. Cornelis Lely, the architect if interested. The other massive anti flood system is called Deltawerken, in Zeeland and Zuid-Holland due to the Watersnoodramp 1953.

So it appears sea level rise is nothing new? Who would have thought. The sea levels have been rising for thousands of years, since the last ice age. You would be able to walk to the UK from the EU.

TimWillebrands 6y ago

From the EU

the-dude 6y ago
I beg your pardon, from mainland Europe.

vanderZwan 6y ago

Nowhere does the article mention anything about sea levels, so maybe don't jump to those conclusions. The land itself can also rise or sink, and that is more likely to be the case when it comes to the history of this region. The villages in the Netherlands (and northern Germany, and Denmark) always were already perilously close to being below sea level to begin with. We're talking about a flat former river delta with extremely wet soil. Remove water from it for agricultural activities through drains and pumps and the land sinks. That is why the villages existed on artificial mounds to protect them from floodwaters (known as a "terp"). So villages like these were more likely to be abandoned due to agricultural activities making the land sink so much that they flooded all the time, which would make the villages themselves not worth living in. Tangent: The website linked in your profile suggests that you're Dutch like me. If so, honest question: did they not mention this in your high school history classes? I grew up in Friesland and it would be interesting if that turned out to be more like a part of the "regional" than the "national" history curriculum. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terp

the-dude 6y ago
Oh, they sure did mention the sea level rise since the ice age, the suspected habitats in Doggerland ( 050, Praedinius ). And the Romans, them too.
- vanderZwan 6y ago
  That's relevant information, but answering a different question than I asked. (Also, the Romans would not be able to distinguish sea levels rising from land sinking)
  - the-dude 6y ago
    Sure about that? Their long aquaducts suggests they might have.

Fnoord 6y ago

I'm from The Netherlands. In geography class (some 25 years ago) I learned there is a geographical border going from approx south west Netherlands to north east Netherlands. Imagine from Zeeland to Nijmegen to Groningen, approx. Above that border, everything gets lower. Under that border, everything goes higher. I don't remember the cause of it. I remember rivers bringing a lot of mud with them over time but not sure if related. Also Zuiderzee (after Afsluitdijk remade into IJsselmeer) had floods which is why Afsluitdijk as part of the Zuiderzeewerken was build in the first place. Also look up Mr. Cornelis Lely, the architect if interested. The other massive anti flood system is called Deltawerken, in Zeeland and Zuid-Holland due to the Watersnoodramp 1953.