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I think it is a universal human concept, but it is not available to every human. We have a very limited right to roam in England and Wales, and much less fores

I think it is a universal human concept, but it is not available to every human. We have a very limited right to roam in England and Wales, and much less forest. I see on TV people in Nordic countries camping by a lake and fishing for their dinner in complete solitude. I don't know where I could do that in the UK, except as some kind of paid bushcraft experience...or tresspassing!

arethuza 6y ago
Scotland has Scandinavian style "Right to Roam" and wild camping is very popular - you can camp pretty much anywhere you want as long as you follow some sensible rules (some extremely popular areas near to Glasgow have local by-laws controlling camping - but that's a very small part of the country). Here's something to give you a taste of what is possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAWJnD0Jro&t=40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAWJnD0Jro&t=40s https://www.visitscotland.com/accommodation/caravan-camping/wild-camping/ https://www.visitscotland.com/accommodation/caravan-camping/... Also if you don't fancy staying in a tent there is a network of bothies where you can stay for free (at least during normal times): https://www.mountainbothies.org.uk/ https://www.mountainbothies.org.uk/
- jacobush 6y ago
  Scotland is basically Scandinavia light, what with your bairn fishing in the beck and so on.
vidarh 6y ago
As a Norwegian living in England, moving here felt like being walled in. Granted I live in London, but it's more than just the lack of land, it also extends to a different culture around things like parks. E.g. opening hours and fences around parks - what the hell is that about? I was just totally confused the first time I got to a park in the evening and it was closed. Part of it of course has to do with density, but to me that just makes it all the more important to protect and ensure as much access as possible. Instead people are herded into as little land as possible, and opening hours imposed on a good chunk of it. Scotland does have similar rights to Scandinavia.
- FartyMcFarter 6y ago
  Not all London parks are fenced. Hampstead Heath for example isn't.
  - vidarh 6y ago
    Quite a lot aren't, but enough are that it just was a really strange experience. 20 years in I'm still not used to it.

arethuza 6y ago

Scotland has Scandinavian style "Right to Roam" and wild camping is very popular - you can camp pretty much anywhere you want as long as you follow some sensible rules (some extremely popular areas near to Glasgow have local by-laws controlling camping - but that's a very small part of the country). Here's something to give you a taste of what is possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAWJnD0Jro&t=40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAWJnD0Jro&t=40s https://www.visitscotland.com/accommodation/caravan-camping/wild-camping/ https://www.visitscotland.com/accommodation/caravan-camping/... Also if you don't fancy staying in a tent there is a network of bothies where you can stay for free (at least during normal times): https://www.mountainbothies.org.uk/ https://www.mountainbothies.org.uk/

jacobush 6y ago
Scotland is basically Scandinavia light, what with your bairn fishing in the beck and so on.

vidarh 6y ago

As a Norwegian living in England, moving here felt like being walled in. Granted I live in London, but it's more than just the lack of land, it also extends to a different culture around things like parks. E.g. opening hours and fences around parks - what the hell is that about? I was just totally confused the first time I got to a park in the evening and it was closed. Part of it of course has to do with density, but to me that just makes it all the more important to protect and ensure as much access as possible. Instead people are herded into as little land as possible, and opening hours imposed on a good chunk of it. Scotland does have similar rights to Scandinavia.

FartyMcFarter 6y ago
Not all London parks are fenced. Hampstead Heath for example isn't.
- vidarh 6y ago
  Quite a lot aren't, but enough are that it just was a really strange experience. 20 years in I'm still not used to it.