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> In the time that I've been eligible to vote for president, the Democrats have won the popular vote 80% of the time, yet won the Presidency 40% of the time. T

> In the time that I've been eligible to vote for president, the Democrats have won the popular vote 80% of the time, yet won the Presidency 40% of the time. The President is not elected by popular vote, so this is a meaningless statement. > And the Presidents we've gotten that didn't win the popular vote: they've been terrible, bottom of the barrel presidents. The people who voted for them would probably disagree with you. > So it's not just the disparity in voting vs. outcome, it's the garbage that we've ended up with in the White House as a result. You stating an opinion doesn't make it so.

mcphage 6y ago
> The President is not elected by popular vote, so this is a meaningless statement. It's merely a statement of fact. > The people who voted for them would probably disagree with you. And I'm sure that their mothers love them very much, too, but that's irrelevant. > You stating an opinion doesn't make it so. Of course not. The wreckage of their administrations—the hundreds of thousands of dead, the economy in freefall, our position of leadership in the world in tatters—makes it so.
- hnlurker 6y ago
  The economy isn't in freefall, but if it were, it would be because of statewide lockdowns. States that impose fines or take away the license to do business if they dare open. In my state, the governor forced infected elderly back into nursing homes--a population of people who are at 3x or more risk than the general population. Honestly, if you think that Trump, a person I find stupid, despicable, and generally bankrupt, has any responsibility for those things then appeals to reason are simply not going to work on you..
  - mcphage 6y ago
    > The economy isn't in freefall I was discussing several administrations; the current economy isn’t in freefall but it was after President George W. Bush.

mcphage 6y ago

> The President is not elected by popular vote, so this is a meaningless statement. It's merely a statement of fact. > The people who voted for them would probably disagree with you. And I'm sure that their mothers love them very much, too, but that's irrelevant. > You stating an opinion doesn't make it so. Of course not. The wreckage of their administrations—the hundreds of thousands of dead, the economy in freefall, our position of leadership in the world in tatters—makes it so.

hnlurker 6y ago
The economy isn't in freefall, but if it were, it would be because of statewide lockdowns. States that impose fines or take away the license to do business if they dare open. In my state, the governor forced infected elderly back into nursing homes--a population of people who are at 3x or more risk than the general population. Honestly, if you think that Trump, a person I find stupid, despicable, and generally bankrupt, has any responsibility for those things then appeals to reason are simply not going to work on you..
- mcphage 6y ago
  > The economy isn't in freefall I was discussing several administrations; the current economy isn’t in freefall but it was after President George W. Bush.