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I'm starting to get more than a little worried.

crossroadsguy 6y ago
Makes you wonder how worried and frustrated would have been those people who approached the path of violence to attract attention of the world towards such things. Not that I am condoning those actions.
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
  I wrote to my MP (in the UK) about this shit, saying extinction rebellion had a valid cause and were arguably doing the right thing in their 'civil disobedience' (includes illegal disruption) because bugger all else will work, and would she perhaps like to speak up on their behalf? To say the law being broken is a valid action here? She didn't answer the question. Just platitudes in return. She's lame. Edit: clarifications.
  - taneq 6y ago
    Standard human 'exponential discounting' behaviour. Inaction will cause us all a great deal of discomfort in the vaguely anticipated future, but unpopular action will cause her personally a great deal of discomfort right now.
    - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
      True, but I said in the letters that a politician's job is to take the long term view and make those hard decisions. I want to be really clear about those last 2 points; it's part of what they're there for. Future discount is not an excuse.
throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
I was worrying myself sick at least 20 years ago, trying and failing to get anyone to listen. No-one cared. Now it's too late. The time to worry is when the problem can be dealt with, not when it's blatantly out of control and entering a vicious spiral. Tip: stop worrying, there's no point now.
- hh3k0 6y ago
  > The time to worry is when the problem can be dealt with I'm convinced that it can still be dealt with but also that it'll require more drastic approaches now, such as stratospheric aerosol injection and other geoengineering techniques.
  - TomSwirly 6y ago
    > I'm convinced that it can still be dealt with Ah, I remember the first time someone said this! It was in the 1970s, and I believed them. I mean, it _can_ be dealt with. It always could be dealt with - we just _won't_ deal with it.

Makes you wonder how worried and frustrated would have been those people who approached the path of violence to attract attention of the world towards such things. Not that I am condoning those actions.

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
I wrote to my MP (in the UK) about this shit, saying extinction rebellion had a valid cause and were arguably doing the right thing in their 'civil disobedience' (includes illegal disruption) because bugger all else will work, and would she perhaps like to speak up on their behalf? To say the law being broken is a valid action here? She didn't answer the question. Just platitudes in return. She's lame. Edit: clarifications.
- taneq 6y ago
  Standard human 'exponential discounting' behaviour. Inaction will cause us all a great deal of discomfort in the vaguely anticipated future, but unpopular action will cause her personally a great deal of discomfort right now.
  - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
    True, but I said in the letters that a politician's job is to take the long term view and make those hard decisions. I want to be really clear about those last 2 points; it's part of what they're there for. Future discount is not an excuse.

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago

I was worrying myself sick at least 20 years ago, trying and failing to get anyone to listen. No-one cared. Now it's too late. The time to worry is when the problem can be dealt with, not when it's blatantly out of control and entering a vicious spiral. Tip: stop worrying, there's no point now.

hh3k0 6y ago
> The time to worry is when the problem can be dealt with I'm convinced that it can still be dealt with but also that it'll require more drastic approaches now, such as stratospheric aerosol injection and other geoengineering techniques.
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  > I'm convinced that it can still be dealt with Ah, I remember the first time someone said this! It was in the 1970s, and I believed them. I mean, it _can_ be dealt with. It always could be dealt with - we just _won't_ deal with it.