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Er... did you reply with your sock puppet by accident [1] [2]? If so that's kind of frowned on here, especially if you were using it to vote. I'm totally willi

Er... did you reply with your sock puppet by accident [1] [2]? If so that's kind of frowned on here, especially if you were using it to vote. I'm totally willing to entertain arguments that the Bytecode Alliance are also acting in bad faith. It's a harsh world and open source is not all unicorns and rainbows. But you can't just brush off the trademark issue by claiming it was unintentional. Especially when what you write here doesn't fit well with what you've written elsewhere [3]. I've gotten trademarks through lawyers before and the level of detail was an intense experience. You seem to be claiming your lawyers independently decided to trademark WebAssembly and you signed the pages without reading them? At least that's what I can put together from your vague writing about it. If you're not willing to give a concrete step by step post mortem of how such a clusterfuck happened, the community should (and I'm sure does) feel at liberty to not believe you in the slightest. You don't owe them an explanation, they don't owe you their trust. You're clearly good at technology, better than me I'm sure, and I'm no slouch. You're doing impressive work and I have no wish to downplay that. But you appear to be quite bad at getting along with people. Maybe you can make your business work without developing that skill, and if that's your plan then best of luck to you. Sincerely. [1] https://i.imgur.com/TPBH9EH.png https://i.imgur.com/TPBH9EH.png [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19515476 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19515476 [3] https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/issues/3#issuecomment-713141554 https://github.com/WebAssembly/WASI/issues/3#issuecomment-71...

syrusakbary 6y ago
> If you're not willing to give a concrete step by step post mortem of how such a clusterfuck happened, the community should (and I'm sure does) feel at liberty to not believe you in the slightest. You don't owe them an explanation, they don't owe you their trust. Agreed, perhaps that's the best way. > Wasmer the company might have been announced November 12 2019, but the open source project was around a year before that. I don't know what happened prior to that date to make the Bytecode Alliance members want to "veto" you as you put it, and maybe you're entirely blameless for that. As you point out, your trademark shenanigans hadn't taken place yet. But saying the "veto of Wasmer happened the same day it was announced" is misleading at best. I think you misunderstood. I meant that Wasmer itself was vetoed from joining the Bytecode Alliance the same day that the Bytecode Alliance was announced. Wasmer was founded way before (as a company and a open-source project). > But you appear to be quite bad at getting along with people. It's curious this is the impression caused. I'm definitely not someone with low social skills. EDIT: added an extra response
- reitzensteinm 6y ago
  I'm sorry, I did indeed misunderstand that. You were clear, I just parsed it wrong. So the criticism in that paragraph is undeserved, I've removed it for clarity but will leave it here for posterity. > Wasmer the company might have been announced November 12 2019, but the open source project was around a year before that. I don't know what happened prior to that date to make the Bytecode Alliance members want to "veto" you as you put it, and maybe you're entirely blameless for that. As you point out, your trademark shenanigans hadn't taken place yet. But saying the "veto of Wasmer happened the same day it was announced" is misleading at best.
austhrow743 6y ago
Ah ha, thanked himself https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12584886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12584886 What a turd

syrusakbary 6y ago

> If you're not willing to give a concrete step by step post mortem of how such a clusterfuck happened, the community should (and I'm sure does) feel at liberty to not believe you in the slightest. You don't owe them an explanation, they don't owe you their trust. Agreed, perhaps that's the best way. > Wasmer the company might have been announced November 12 2019, but the open source project was around a year before that. I don't know what happened prior to that date to make the Bytecode Alliance members want to "veto" you as you put it, and maybe you're entirely blameless for that. As you point out, your trademark shenanigans hadn't taken place yet. But saying the "veto of Wasmer happened the same day it was announced" is misleading at best. I think you misunderstood. I meant that Wasmer itself was vetoed from joining the Bytecode Alliance the same day that the Bytecode Alliance was announced. Wasmer was founded way before (as a company and a open-source project). > But you appear to be quite bad at getting along with people. It's curious this is the impression caused. I'm definitely not someone with low social skills. EDIT: added an extra response

reitzensteinm 6y ago
I'm sorry, I did indeed misunderstand that. You were clear, I just parsed it wrong. So the criticism in that paragraph is undeserved, I've removed it for clarity but will leave it here for posterity. > Wasmer the company might have been announced November 12 2019, but the open source project was around a year before that. I don't know what happened prior to that date to make the Bytecode Alliance members want to "veto" you as you put it, and maybe you're entirely blameless for that. As you point out, your trademark shenanigans hadn't taken place yet. But saying the "veto of Wasmer happened the same day it was announced" is misleading at best.

austhrow743 6y ago

Ah ha, thanked himself https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12584886 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12584886 What a turd