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Detroit and Grand Rapids are great urban centers.

• tolbish 6y ago
  The public transit in those cities is non-existent compared to urban centers like Chicago or Seattle.
  • myself248 6y ago
    "urban centers with mass transit" is moving the goalposts a little, isn't it?
    • jbc1 6y ago
      For many people the car free lifestyle is the main appeal of urban centres. More not being specific enough than moving goal posts imo.
    • tolbish 6y ago
      Public transit was mentioned in the original comment.
  • sheepybloke 6y ago
    I'd actually compare GR at least closer to something like Asheville, only a bit smaller. It gets decent concerts, has a nice craft drink scene and lots of fun places to go, but won't compare to some place like a Chicago or Seattle if that's what you want.