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> This is the GOP party platform for 2016 & 2020: Surely you understand the difference between things written in a policy platform and things actually done in
by core-questions 6y ago
> This is the GOP party platform for 2016 & 2020:
Surely you understand the difference between things written in a policy platform and things actually done in practice. There is no GOP rep who is out there stirring anything up on reversing this and despite the words "urging its reversal" there is not and will likely not ever be any action in this direction.
I can't really imagine someone following American politics for more than a year and not realizing this. Almost none of the policy white papers these parties and candidates write will ever be implemented, at all.
The GOP almost never does anything its base actually wants, in the socially-conservative sense. They just pretend they will, to get votes; the same way the Democrats pretend they're going to do any number of things for their base that never happen. It's just kayfabe, it's just an act to get you to vote and legitimize their power so that they can continue to do whatever is easiest and most expedient for each individual politician and player at any given moment.
- heavyset_go 6y agoI once heard some good advice that I'm going to repeat: when someone tells you who they are, you should listen. The GOP is telling us who they are with their party platform. Anyway, I hear what you're saying a lot, and yet: - The GOP enables Texas social workers to refuse LGBTQ clients[1] - The Trump administration allows doctors to discriminate against LGBTQ people[2] - The Trump administration allows taxpayer-funded adoption agencies to turn away LGBTQ parents[3][4] - The Trump administration targets homeless trans people[5] But most importantly, and directly to your point: - In October of this year, conservative Supreme Court justices chose to speak out against Obergefell[6] at length, for four whole pages, while deciding not to hear another case[7] [1] https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/14/texas-social-workers-rule-discrimination-lgbt-disabilities/ https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/14/texas-social-workers... [2] https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/4/24/21234532/trump-administration-health-care-discriminate-lgbtq https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/4/24/21234532/trump-admi... [3] https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-admin-s-adoption-waiver-intentionally-harms-gays-report-says-n1237631 https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-admin-s-adopti... [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avgFhrHqBWM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avgFhrHqBWM [5] https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/7/2/21311179/trump-hud-rule-homeless-trans-people https://www.vox.com/identities/2020/7/2/21311179/trump-hud-r... [6] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/us/politics/thomas-alito-same-sex-marriage.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/05/us/politics/thomas-alito-... [7] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-kim-davis-same-sex-marriage/2020/10/05/cd5a74d2-0710-11eb-9be6-cf25fb429f1a_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-c...
- core-questions 6y agoSo, a few small "wins"; nothing major; nothing that is actually addressing the real concerns of these people that their culture and way of life is being changed forcibly around them without their consent. I don't think you'll find anyone that is satisfied with any of the above - at most perhaps someone who revels in this as some kind of revenge, but it doesn't accomplish what GOP voters want: the return of a strong middle class White culture that reflects the world they believe their ancestors to have been struggling toward.
- recursive 6y agoCulture is always changing regardless of anyone's consent, as it always has. I'm confused about what you're saying about ".. don't think you'll find anyone that is satisfied ...". If no one is happy about these things, why do they continue to do them?
- core-questions 6y agoIt's just meaningless bits of red meat chopped off to give the base something for a news cycle. Almost nothing ever comes of it, in the long run....