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I suspect there's at least a small dose of ultra privilege of googlers involved too. The same way governments and bureaucrats fuck up things like Covid respons

I suspect there's at least a small dose of ultra privilege of googlers involved too. The same way governments and bureaucrats fuck up things like Covid responses, because they can't even imagine people not having 9-5 office jobs which are totally suited to WFH, and then blithely implement disease protection schemes failing to account for low income and precariously employed people, many of whom are working 3 jobs to pay the bills (including stuff like cleaning jobs where they work at 4 or 5 different old people's homes) - and then wonder why outbreaks spread so fast. Googlers have probably forgotten the olden times, when they didn't have Gigabit connections to their pockets and lounge rooms, and don't even remember last time they wanted to "save a copy into a hard drive locally, like a hilarious boomer!"...

nullc 6y ago
I want to agree with your cynicism. But I lived in Mountain View. Decent internet is more or less not available there. Your choices are comcast or DSL. Maybe they just don't remember the last time they had a waking hour out of the office ... :) It's clear to me that whomever is making these product decisions has a very different relationship with computing and their data than I do-- but whatever the reason is, I don't think it's because they have a much better internet connection.
actuator 6y ago
> Googlers have probably forgotten the olden times, when they didn't have Gigabit connections to their pockets and lounge rooms. Sure, that's why projects like Project Loon were launched by Googlers. I don't think the CC video thing is even ads related. Just that most videos are not CC and no one thought about creating an exception for CC videos.
varenc 6y ago
Youtube makes money on advertising. You can’t put modern ads into a downloaded video. I don’t think the ultra-privilege of Googlers factors into this particular decision. (Also if you live in Mountain View, you’re stuck with a Comcast cable modem and a 38mbps max upload speed even when paying for their “gigabit” plan. But you'll only get 10-15mbps during the peak hours of the work day.)
- samoa42 6y ago
  > You can’t put modern ads into a downloaded video youtube-dl has an experimental --include-ads option =)

nullc 6y ago

I want to agree with your cynicism. But I lived in Mountain View. Decent internet is more or less not available there. Your choices are comcast or DSL. Maybe they just don't remember the last time they had a waking hour out of the office ... :) It's clear to me that whomever is making these product decisions has a very different relationship with computing and their data than I do-- but whatever the reason is, I don't think it's because they have a much better internet connection.

actuator 6y ago

> Googlers have probably forgotten the olden times, when they didn't have Gigabit connections to their pockets and lounge rooms. Sure, that's why projects like Project Loon were launched by Googlers. I don't think the CC video thing is even ads related. Just that most videos are not CC and no one thought about creating an exception for CC videos.

varenc 6y ago

Youtube makes money on advertising. You can’t put modern ads into a downloaded video. I don’t think the ultra-privilege of Googlers factors into this particular decision. (Also if you live in Mountain View, you’re stuck with a Comcast cable modem and a 38mbps max upload speed even when paying for their “gigabit” plan. But you'll only get 10-15mbps during the peak hours of the work day.)

samoa42 6y ago
> You can’t put modern ads into a downloaded video youtube-dl has an experimental --include-ads option =)