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"Those who have ordered face challenges; if they want to experience the full 1Gbps speed they're paying for, standard WiFi connections aren't fast enough. Some

by corin_ 16y ago

"Those who have ordered face challenges; if they want to experience the full 1Gbps speed they're paying for, standard WiFi connections aren't fast enough. Some customers have switched to wired gigabit routers in order to access their full bandwidth." Facing challenges? Really? Of the handful of people to order the service, some of them didn't realise they would need more than a 10/100 router to use it? That's idiocy, either on the part of a technical user who didn't think of it, or on the part of the ISP who didn't explain it to a non-technical customer purchasing the service. It's not a challenge.

eli 16y ago
Honestly, my guess is they will be disappointed by how little difference there is between a 100mbit internet connection and a 1gbit connection in practice. And, yes, setting up a gigabit wireless network counts as a challenge, even for non-idiots.
- corin_ 16y ago
  Wireless, sure, wired, not so much. Disappointed because they would be thinking "wow facebook will load so much faster now"? Presumably they wouldn't be disappointed if their reason for upgrading is, say, for torrents or another type of filesharing, etc.
  - jonknee 16y ago
    Maybe you missed it, but that's what the article mentioned. Wireless wasn't fast enough ("standard WiFi connections aren't fast enough"), so they switched to wired networks. It wasn't that they didn't know they would need a gigabit router, it's that they saturated the wireless network and upgraded to a faster wired network.
    - corin_ 16y ago
      That's still the same issue. The router I have here at home isn't capable of handling a gig of traffic, wired or wireless. If my ISP sold me a gig connection, I would expect them to realise that, most likely my router won't support it, and to explain that to me (and, more likely than not, try to sell me a new router themselves). It doesn't matter that they went from wireless to wired - even when moving to wired, the issue was still that they hadn't realised they would need a new router.
      - jonknee 16y ago
        I guess we're reading it differently. I read it as "before getting gigabit internet I had a wireless router that worked fine, but after I had to use a wired router to get the new faster speed I'm paying for." I don't think they went through multiple wired routers because they were unable to realize that 100 != 1000 (regardless, many new wireless routers are also gigabit ethernet routers).
        corin_ 16y ago
        I read it same as you, but to me needing a new router isn't "a challenge", it's an obvious requirement that you know about before deciding to upgrade your connection. Same as needing to own some sort of networked device such as a computer in order to use any internet connection.
        jonknee 16y ago
        It might not be a new router. My wireless routers at home and work both support gigabit ethernet. But it could be a challenge to have to run wire and what not. I think it makes complete sense.
TrevorFancher 16y ago
I consider moving a business from WiFi to wired ethernet a challenge. If the business was larger than micro (25+ employees) and renting office space, then converting from WiFi to wired ethernet could pose some problems. Your suggestion of idiocy is neither warranted nor considerate.
- corin_ 16y ago
  If the reason for it being a challenge is "large business" then you could define so many easy things as a challenge. The way it was worded in the article didn't suggest "it took a lot of work because it was such a big network they were having to upgrade", it was "some people found themselves unable to use the network and found themselves with the challenge of having to buy a new router". While perhaps a little mean to call it idiocy, wouldn't you agree that, if an ISP sells a gig connection to a user, and the user ends up not having the correct home networking equipment to make use of it, one or both parties ought to have seen that coming?

by corin_ 16y ago

eli 16y ago

Honestly, my guess is they will be disappointed by how little difference there is between a 100mbit internet connection and a 1gbit connection in practice. And, yes, setting up a gigabit wireless network counts as a challenge, even for non-idiots.

corin_ 16y ago
Wireless, sure, wired, not so much. Disappointed because they would be thinking "wow facebook will load so much faster now"? Presumably they wouldn't be disappointed if their reason for upgrading is, say, for torrents or another type of filesharing, etc.
- jonknee 16y ago
  Maybe you missed it, but that's what the article mentioned. Wireless wasn't fast enough ("standard WiFi connections aren't fast enough"), so they switched to wired networks. It wasn't that they didn't know they would need a gigabit router, it's that they saturated the wireless network and upgraded to a faster wired network.
  - corin_ 16y ago
    That's still the same issue. The router I have here at home isn't capable of handling a gig of traffic, wired or wireless. If my ISP sold me a gig connection, I would expect them to realise that, most likely my router won't support it, and to explain that to me (and, more likely than not, try to sell me a new router themselves). It doesn't matter that they went from wireless to wired - even when moving to wired, the issue was still that they hadn't realised they would need a new router.
    - jonknee 16y ago
      I guess we're reading it differently. I read it as "before getting gigabit internet I had a wireless router that worked fine, but after I had to use a wired router to get the new faster speed I'm paying for." I don't think they went through multiple wired routers because they were unable to realize that 100 != 1000 (regardless, many new wireless routers are also gigabit ethernet routers).
      - corin_ 16y ago
        I read it same as you, but to me needing a new router isn't "a challenge", it's an obvious requirement that you know about before deciding to upgrade your connection. Same as needing to own some sort of networked device such as a computer in order to use any internet connection.
        jonknee 16y ago
        It might not be a new router. My wireless routers at home and work both support gigabit ethernet. But it could be a challenge to have to run wire and what not. I think it makes complete sense.

TrevorFancher 16y ago

I consider moving a business from WiFi to wired ethernet a challenge. If the business was larger than micro (25+ employees) and renting office space, then converting from WiFi to wired ethernet could pose some problems. Your suggestion of idiocy is neither warranted nor considerate.

corin_ 16y ago
If the reason for it being a challenge is "large business" then you could define so many easy things as a challenge. The way it was worded in the article didn't suggest "it took a lot of work because it was such a big network they were having to upgrade", it was "some people found themselves unable to use the network and found themselves with the challenge of having to buy a new router". While perhaps a little mean to call it idiocy, wouldn't you agree that, if an ISP sells a gig connection to a user, and the user ends up not having the correct home networking equipment to make use of it, one or both parties ought to have seen that coming?