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I wish these reviews would post the full res images. I clicked "View Image" on a few of these to see just the photo but they're all cropped and compressed. Alm

I wish these reviews would post the full res images. I clicked "View Image" on a few of these to see just the photo but they're all cropped and compressed. Almost any flagship phone can produce similar pics to the ones in this article. The devil is really in the details now.

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buryat 6y ago
that's not true, the night mode on 12 pro is way better than other phones like 11 pro that they showed in comparison
- jonplackett 6y ago
  Only on the super wide though. Night mode on normal lens is the same and already very good on 11.
  - bydo 6y ago
    The 12 Pro does Night Mode on all three lenses. The 11 Pro only does it on the "regular" wide. The 12 Pro's "regular" wide also has a larger aperture to improve low light capture, so Night Mode can stack fewer / shorter exposures for the final image.
asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
Even without the full resolution images, some of the samples seem to exhibit serious sharpness problems. One example: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50730c37e4b03adec668905b/1603213328477-Z5XLX2O4DLLMZQ3RKN77/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kOVKhqjzbm10MiDnThJIlG4UqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYy7Mythp_T-mtop-vrsUOmeInPi9iDjx9w8K4ZfjXt2dirTHmuM_s-nkBYPi32Z4oBKuEKHJmBgG4xpM3KBlj5rZtJ3qR9G2BYeA0wOAaeYNg/%C2%A9AustinMann_IMG_0960.jpg?format=2500w https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50730c37e4b03a... If that's the output I can expect, I don't know why I'd even bother taking the picture. The image is a mess. On the basis of this article, my conclusion is if you want to share or view the images on anything other than a mobile device, you might be disappointed with the output of this camera. Better to stick with your a7 III or what have you.
- billforsternz 6y ago
  It looks like a perfectly nice photo to me.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
    I'm glad for you, but it looks very poor to me. I would be unhappy if I got home and this were the only image I had of this scene. For any given image, you'll be able to find someone who likes it or thinks it looks good enough. If that's your standard, then this camera might be great for you. But if you have a higher standard, then you might not be satisfied. I'd also ask what kind of screen you're looking at the image on. This image looks fine on my phone, but its screen is barely as large as a 3x5, which is essentially the lowest common denominator for printing -- the McDonald's hamburger of photo rendition. The image looks bad on my monitor, and would look awful if printed on 8x10.
    - sbuk 6y ago
      It's not the original. It's a 2048×935 @ 72ppi, at a guess about 1/4 the actual size shot and it's been compressed so it can be uploaded onto a website. It's hardly a real representation of the capabilities of the camera.
      - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
        My bad, then. I don't know why I expected that a review of a camera would contain representative images from that camera. :P
        moogleii 6y ago
        Yeah, I expected a bit more of a hardcore review. Maybe we'll have to wait until a dedicated photography blog reviews it. For what it's worth, there's this review here that compares its video capabilities to a Sony a7S III, although the reviewer seems unfamiliar with HDR workflows: https://petapixel.com/2020/10/26/sony-a7s-iii-vs-the-iphone-12-pro-an-unfair-comparison/ https://petapixel.com/2020/10/26/sony-a7s-iii-vs-the-iphone-...
huangc10 6y ago
I think the whole point of these reviews are...how will the images look on Instagram not necessarily for pixel peepers. I agree with you completely, that when it comes down to the full image, the results are usually grainy and pixelated. That's why I'm sticking with my Sony camera.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
  > not necessarily for pixel peepers. TBH, I think some of these photos look a little muddy and noisy even at 4x6 dimensions. Even some of the ones taken in daylight. Maybe there was an issue with the post-processing, but I wouldn't characterize someone who wants to print a 4x6 as a pixel peeper..

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buryat 6y ago

that's not true, the night mode on 12 pro is way better than other phones like 11 pro that they showed in comparison

jonplackett 6y ago
Only on the super wide though. Night mode on normal lens is the same and already very good on 11.
- bydo 6y ago
  The 12 Pro does Night Mode on all three lenses. The 11 Pro only does it on the "regular" wide. The 12 Pro's "regular" wide also has a larger aperture to improve low light capture, so Night Mode can stack fewer / shorter exposures for the final image.

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago

Even without the full resolution images, some of the samples seem to exhibit serious sharpness problems. One example: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50730c37e4b03adec668905b/1603213328477-Z5XLX2O4DLLMZQ3RKN77/ke17ZwdGBToddI8pDm48kOVKhqjzbm10MiDnThJIlG4UqsxRUqqbr1mOJYKfIPR7LoDQ9mXPOjoJoqy81S2I8N_N4V1vUb5AoIIIbLZhVYy7Mythp_T-mtop-vrsUOmeInPi9iDjx9w8K4ZfjXt2dirTHmuM_s-nkBYPi32Z4oBKuEKHJmBgG4xpM3KBlj5rZtJ3qR9G2BYeA0wOAaeYNg/%C2%A9AustinMann_IMG_0960.jpg?format=2500w https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/50730c37e4b03a... If that's the output I can expect, I don't know why I'd even bother taking the picture. The image is a mess. On the basis of this article, my conclusion is if you want to share or view the images on anything other than a mobile device, you might be disappointed with the output of this camera. Better to stick with your a7 III or what have you.

billforsternz 6y ago
It looks like a perfectly nice photo to me.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
  I'm glad for you, but it looks very poor to me. I would be unhappy if I got home and this were the only image I had of this scene. For any given image, you'll be able to find someone who likes it or thinks it looks good enough. If that's your standard, then this camera might be great for you. But if you have a higher standard, then you might not be satisfied. I'd also ask what kind of screen you're looking at the image on. This image looks fine on my phone, but its screen is barely as large as a 3x5, which is essentially the lowest common denominator for printing -- the McDonald's hamburger of photo rendition. The image looks bad on my monitor, and would look awful if printed on 8x10.
  - sbuk 6y ago
    It's not the original. It's a 2048×935 @ 72ppi, at a guess about 1/4 the actual size shot and it's been compressed so it can be uploaded onto a website. It's hardly a real representation of the capabilities of the camera.
    - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
      My bad, then. I don't know why I expected that a review of a camera would contain representative images from that camera. :P
      - moogleii 6y ago
        Yeah, I expected a bit more of a hardcore review. Maybe we'll have to wait until a dedicated photography blog reviews it. For what it's worth, there's this review here that compares its video capabilities to a Sony a7S III, although the reviewer seems unfamiliar with HDR workflows: https://petapixel.com/2020/10/26/sony-a7s-iii-vs-the-iphone-12-pro-an-unfair-comparison/ https://petapixel.com/2020/10/26/sony-a7s-iii-vs-the-iphone-...

huangc10 6y ago

I think the whole point of these reviews are...how will the images look on Instagram not necessarily for pixel peepers. I agree with you completely, that when it comes down to the full image, the results are usually grainy and pixelated. That's why I'm sticking with my Sony camera.

asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
> not necessarily for pixel peepers. TBH, I think some of these photos look a little muddy and noisy even at 4x6 dimensions. Even some of the ones taken in daylight. Maybe there was an issue with the post-processing, but I wouldn't characterize someone who wants to print a 4x6 as a pixel peeper..