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So people should be able to send money abroad to terrorism outfits? I think you are taking the "money is speech" conservative position, and stretching it to it

So people should be able to send money abroad to terrorism outfits? I think you are taking the "money is speech" conservative position, and stretching it to its atomic limits.

gruez 6y ago
>So people should be able to send money abroad to terrorism outfits OP mentioned "if you're not breaking the law".
- mmastrac 6y ago
  So free speech _does_ have limits?
  - toomuchtodo 6y ago
    Speech is not terrorism, nor physical violence. It is hyperbole to argue otherwise. Yes, many forms of speech are distasteful, or downright grotesque (hate speech, for example), but it is absolutely not the same as an act of terrorism. [The idea that the government may restrict] speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate.” -- Justice Samuel Alito [1] [2] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201... [2] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1293_1o13.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1293_1o13.pdf (Matal v. Tam)
    - mmastrac 6y ago
      Quoting a conservative justice on free speech is not a powerful argument. What you are arguing here is that free speech is unlimited because the things you don't like aren't actually speech.
    - charliebrownau 6y ago
      Hate speech is any speech someone else HATES, its plain and simple If you take a decent look at the situation White Right Wing ethnic Nationalists are not in power If they were Why would they allow Censorship Poltical correct LGBT Trans Anti White culture global left activists as "news" Constant blame on males, straight males and white males Anti nationalist push Pro censorship Pro free trade Pro Globalism Pro central banking Pro USRY Along with every SINGLE mainstream platform parroting the same anti white message as Global LEFT, Jewish Zionists, and "news"/education/history/uni/schools/churchs/etc at the same time kicking off whites males right wing christians anyone calls out the BS on goverment/news/mainstream ------------------------------ Go look up the pure HATE on twatter that Jewish people have towards whites, its a plague
    - charliebrownau 6y ago
      Made up words to censor and stop debate by the ANTI WHITES, Global LEFT and Zionist Jews * Sexist - made up word to CENSOR and stop debate about gender * Racist - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate about RACE * Anti Semite - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about Jews/ISRAEL/Z1onism/Judism/Crimes that jews commit * Islamfobia - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about ISLAM and Muslims * White Supremacist - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about NATIONALISM vs Globalism/Multi culturalism * Homofobe - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion * Transfobe - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion * Conspiracy Theory - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion and smear anyone that challenges the Government/education/system

So people should be able to send money abroad to terrorism outfits? I think you are taking the "money is speech" conservative position, and stretching it to its atomic limits.

gruez 6y ago

>So people should be able to send money abroad to terrorism outfits OP mentioned "if you're not breaking the law".

mmastrac 6y ago
So free speech _does_ have limits?
- toomuchtodo 6y ago
  Speech is not terrorism, nor physical violence. It is hyperbole to argue otherwise. Yes, many forms of speech are distasteful, or downright grotesque (hate speech, for example), but it is absolutely not the same as an act of terrorism. [The idea that the government may restrict] speech expressing ideas that offend … strikes at the heart of the First Amendment. Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express “the thought that we hate.” -- Justice Samuel Alito [1] [2] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/201... [2] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1293_1o13.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1293_1o13.pdf (Matal v. Tam)
  - mmastrac 6y ago
    Quoting a conservative justice on free speech is not a powerful argument. What you are arguing here is that free speech is unlimited because the things you don't like aren't actually speech.
  - charliebrownau 6y ago
    Hate speech is any speech someone else HATES, its plain and simple If you take a decent look at the situation White Right Wing ethnic Nationalists are not in power If they were Why would they allow Censorship Poltical correct LGBT Trans Anti White culture global left activists as "news" Constant blame on males, straight males and white males Anti nationalist push Pro censorship Pro free trade Pro Globalism Pro central banking Pro USRY Along with every SINGLE mainstream platform parroting the same anti white message as Global LEFT, Jewish Zionists, and "news"/education/history/uni/schools/churchs/etc at the same time kicking off whites males right wing christians anyone calls out the BS on goverment/news/mainstream ------------------------------ Go look up the pure HATE on twatter that Jewish people have towards whites, its a plague
  - charliebrownau 6y ago
    Made up words to censor and stop debate by the ANTI WHITES, Global LEFT and Zionist Jews * Sexist - made up word to CENSOR and stop debate about gender * Racist - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate about RACE * Anti Semite - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about Jews/ISRAEL/Z1onism/Judism/Crimes that jews commit * Islamfobia - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about ISLAM and Muslims * White Supremacist - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion about NATIONALISM vs Globalism/Multi culturalism * Homofobe - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion * Transfobe - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion * Conspiracy Theory - Made up word to CENSOR and stop debate/open discussion and smear anyone that challenges the Government/education/system