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You know I don't recall hearing the term "culture war" when I was studying critical theory and culture and media and so on at university last decade.. I heard a

You know I don't recall hearing the term "culture war" when I was studying critical theory and culture and media and so on at university last decade.. I heard about hegemony, and how theories of cultural transmission have changed over time.. I heard of Edward Said and his The Myth of the “Clash of Civilizations”, I heard of Virilio's "Pure War" of technology vs humanity... but I can't recall any discussion of a culture war.. which leads me to suspect that this phrase is actually just made up by a group of people who want to bring the ideas of violent struggle into their discourse about who the world ought to be.. and journalist have unwittingly picked up the phrase and reified it(another nifty media studies word). There aren't two side to a culture war, there isn't any war. from what I've heard of fascist ideology, and how it glorifies violence and war, it's not surprising that the phrase would arise.

brobdingnagians 6y ago
Studies have shown that both sides are increasingly favorable to violence for political ends. The interesting thing I gained from your statements is, it would appear that both parties are moving towards fascism or "corporatism" as Mussolini liked to put it, with all the military-industrial complex that comes with it. It is clear to most people how corporatism could be applied to the Republican party, but socialism is also a "partnership" between government and corporations where government regulations and incentives to the market bend it to the governments will (and both the Right & Left have consistently increase the military-industrial complex). We may feel that climate intervention and laws implementing that needs to happen, but it is quite clearly a corporatism partnership with the government where companies are given marching orders with legal regulation, then given incentives to change their behaviour. Oddly enough, I think America is moving towards fascism, but the "anti-fascists" are just as guilty as the war hawks on Wall Street. There are very few people advocating truly a truly free society or scaling back the massive military-industrial complex and surveillance state.
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renewiltord 6y ago
Well, that's obvious. Social sciences that describe societies usually lag behind the events they describe. That's natural. It's also true for other sciences. You won't learn cutting edge Physics in your lecture class. You'll learn the established stuff. It takes a long time till you attend lectures where you'll hear that stuff and it won't be general admission.
- totetsu 6y ago
  Well maybe. But it seems to me that the proponents of the phrase culture war are like the people who flunked phys101 and the started a YouTube channel to explain how their perpetual motion engine works.. they made up a new phrase because they don't want to accept any of the prior thought and discussion in the area that doesn't lead to their conclusions

brobdingnagians 6y ago

Studies have shown that both sides are increasingly favorable to violence for political ends. The interesting thing I gained from your statements is, it would appear that both parties are moving towards fascism or "corporatism" as Mussolini liked to put it, with all the military-industrial complex that comes with it. It is clear to most people how corporatism could be applied to the Republican party, but socialism is also a "partnership" between government and corporations where government regulations and incentives to the market bend it to the governments will (and both the Right & Left have consistently increase the military-industrial complex). We may feel that climate intervention and laws implementing that needs to happen, but it is quite clearly a corporatism partnership with the government where companies are given marching orders with legal regulation, then given incentives to change their behaviour. Oddly enough, I think America is moving towards fascism, but the "anti-fascists" are just as guilty as the war hawks on Wall Street. There are very few people advocating truly a truly free society or scaling back the massive military-industrial complex and surveillance state.

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renewiltord 6y ago

Well, that's obvious. Social sciences that describe societies usually lag behind the events they describe. That's natural. It's also true for other sciences. You won't learn cutting edge Physics in your lecture class. You'll learn the established stuff. It takes a long time till you attend lectures where you'll hear that stuff and it won't be general admission.

totetsu 6y ago
Well maybe. But it seems to me that the proponents of the phrase culture war are like the people who flunked phys101 and the started a YouTube channel to explain how their perpetual motion engine works.. they made up a new phrase because they don't want to accept any of the prior thought and discussion in the area that doesn't lead to their conclusions