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No. NVME's are rated to run at 0-70 degrees. If your case makes your NVME run at > 80+ degrees you should prob fix the airflow in your case as your prob running

No. NVME's are rated to run at 0-70 degrees. If your case makes your NVME run at > 80+ degrees you should prob fix the airflow in your case as your prob running your CPU/GPU rather hot.

faeyanpiraat 6y ago
I would run some tests though. There are all kinds of vendors / models, who knows what kind of throttling they use?
adrianN 6y ago
How is the lifetime of a SSD run around 70° vs the same SSD with a slightly bigger heatsink that runs at 60°?
onli 6y ago
You do not need a case for that! The NVMe heats up on its own. There are a bunch of reviews going into that topic, because it just matters for high end NVMe drives. See for example https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/samsung-980-pro-ssd-test/2/#abschnitt_temperaturverlauf_und_drosselung https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/samsung-980-pro-ssd-test... - though the 980 Evo did well without an additional cooler, and here it's indeed depending on the airflow. You seem to assume it's the case that heats up to 80C or more, that's not true and also not necessary for NVMe SSDs to go over their limit. Your CPU/GPU has fans moving the heat away, that's a better position to be in...
- philliphaydon 6y ago
  I said if your nvme is reaching 80+ degrees then you should fix the airflow in the case. I did not say the case is 80 degrees. Any semi decent airflow is 100% capable of running an nvme without causing any performance issues.
  - onli 6y ago
    As you saw in the article I linked that's just not true. Those temps are with airflow, and SSDs go over their temp limit.
    - philliphaydon 6y ago
      Nope. That article states the the ssd was 'naked' which leads me to believe they removed the sticker off it. Those stickers/labels are use to dissipate heat from the controller, so you, you know, don't need a heatsink. They act as a heatsink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzSIfxHppPY&t=375s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzSIfxHppPY&t=375s
      - onli 6y ago
        No! Why would you assume crazy modifications like that? They write "naked", it's naked as in not using the heatsink the mainboard supplies. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-11-12#kf https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-re... shows the cooler they are talking about. You will just have to accept that you've been wrong on this topic. Move on, it happens.
        philliphaydon 6y ago
        No. Lol. Cooling anything other than the controller is pointless. You don’t get throttling from nand. I have the gigabyte x570 elite. That nvme cover does nothing. And unless you’re benchmarking the nvme I highly doubt you’re going to heat up the controller enough to notice it. So yup. I agree. You’re wrong. Let’s move on.
        onli 6y ago
        Man, they are benchmarking the whole SSD. I actually sent you the graph. The SSDs go over 80C and then throttle. Not all of them, but enough of them to be a real problem. The NVMe covers actually work in reducing the temperature, that's also in the graph. You are wrong and you seem to have no knowledge about this topic at all, you really should not be so confident. Read and learn! And then accept when an initial assumption turns out to be wrong.

No. NVME's are rated to run at 0-70 degrees. If your case makes your NVME run at > 80+ degrees you should prob fix the airflow in your case as your prob running your CPU/GPU rather hot.

faeyanpiraat 6y ago

I would run some tests though. There are all kinds of vendors / models, who knows what kind of throttling they use?

adrianN 6y ago

How is the lifetime of a SSD run around 70° vs the same SSD with a slightly bigger heatsink that runs at 60°?

onli 6y ago

You do not need a case for that! The NVMe heats up on its own. There are a bunch of reviews going into that topic, because it just matters for high end NVMe drives. See for example https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/samsung-980-pro-ssd-test/2/#abschnitt_temperaturverlauf_und_drosselung https://www.computerbase.de/2020-09/samsung-980-pro-ssd-test... - though the 980 Evo did well without an additional cooler, and here it's indeed depending on the airflow. You seem to assume it's the case that heats up to 80C or more, that's not true and also not necessary for NVMe SSDs to go over their limit. Your CPU/GPU has fans moving the heat away, that's a better position to be in...

philliphaydon 6y ago
I said if your nvme is reaching 80+ degrees then you should fix the airflow in the case. I did not say the case is 80 degrees. Any semi decent airflow is 100% capable of running an nvme without causing any performance issues.
- onli 6y ago
  As you saw in the article I linked that's just not true. Those temps are with airflow, and SSDs go over their temp limit.
  - philliphaydon 6y ago
    Nope. That article states the the ssd was 'naked' which leads me to believe they removed the sticker off it. Those stickers/labels are use to dissipate heat from the controller, so you, you know, don't need a heatsink. They act as a heatsink. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzSIfxHppPY&t=375s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzSIfxHppPY&t=375s
    - onli 6y ago
      No! Why would you assume crazy modifications like that? They write "naked", it's naked as in not using the heatsink the mainboard supplies. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-rev-11-12#kf https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-MASTER-re... shows the cooler they are talking about. You will just have to accept that you've been wrong on this topic. Move on, it happens.
      - philliphaydon 6y ago
        No. Lol. Cooling anything other than the controller is pointless. You don’t get throttling from nand. I have the gigabyte x570 elite. That nvme cover does nothing. And unless you’re benchmarking the nvme I highly doubt you’re going to heat up the controller enough to notice it. So yup. I agree. You’re wrong. Let’s move on.
        onli 6y ago
        Man, they are benchmarking the whole SSD. I actually sent you the graph. The SSDs go over 80C and then throttle. Not all of them, but enough of them to be a real problem. The NVMe covers actually work in reducing the temperature, that's also in the graph. You are wrong and you seem to have no knowledge about this topic at all, you really should not be so confident. Read and learn! And then accept when an initial assumption turns out to be wrong.