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> Risk of rockets failing The thing is, we transport nuclear waste over sea or air all the time, don't we? I believe the spent fuel is put into "casks" which i

> Risk of rockets failing The thing is, we transport nuclear waste over sea or air all the time, don't we? I believe the spent fuel is put into "casks" which is then loaded onto ships or jumbo jets and flown around the world. Planes crash and ships sink, but we judge the risk (with proper pre-cautions) to be low enough when transporting radioactive waste. To me this shows that people generally accept transporting nuclear waste when the danger of catastrophe is low enough - importantly this signals that the risk only has to be low enough, it doesn't actually have to be 0. Presumably as rocket technology advances we will eventually enter a stage similar to that in air travel, where the risk of a crash is measured in 1-per-billions rather than 1-per-hundreds or 1-per-dozens. At that point, would we accept launching radioactive waste into space?

db48x 6y ago
Don't forget that those casks are really heavy. If you launch the "waste" into space in them you'll be launching a lot more mass than just the 30kt. I don't know the exact ratio between cask mass and waste mass, but it could easily be 10:1. Also, I'll repeat that throwing away valuable nuclear material just because it's called a "waste" product is stupid. Paying a lot of money to throw it into space is even dumber.
- SwiftyBug 6y ago
  Are there any practical uses for nuclear waste?
  - foxyv 6y ago
    I think they are referring to fast reactors (Referring to the fast neutrons used to induce fission) that can burn high level nuclear waste from standard PWR plants as fuel.
nabla9 6y ago
Some types of fresh nuclear fuel can be transported trough air, with limited amounts at the time. Used nuclear fuel in those flasks are not transported trough air. Always by land or sea. On the sea they are transported in purpose-built ships. Small amounts of highly radioactive nuclear fuel are transported trough air but they be in extremely secure type C containers that survive crash from cruising altitude. Creating similar containers that survive crash from space launch would make launching very expensive. Most of the payload would be just the container and only small amounts would be radioactive material. It's 1000 times cheaper to recycle nuclear fuel make nuclear reactors that use nuclear waste than shoot it into space. France does it in La Hague. The rest can be buried into the ground.
qu-everything 6y ago
Totally different, a space ship failling would mean tons of nuclear dust in the upper atmosphere, wich would mean radioactive material spreading everywhere in the world, poisonning everything.

db48x 6y ago

Don't forget that those casks are really heavy. If you launch the "waste" into space in them you'll be launching a lot more mass than just the 30kt. I don't know the exact ratio between cask mass and waste mass, but it could easily be 10:1. Also, I'll repeat that throwing away valuable nuclear material just because it's called a "waste" product is stupid. Paying a lot of money to throw it into space is even dumber.

SwiftyBug 6y ago
Are there any practical uses for nuclear waste?
- foxyv 6y ago
  I think they are referring to fast reactors (Referring to the fast neutrons used to induce fission) that can burn high level nuclear waste from standard PWR plants as fuel.

nabla9 6y ago

Some types of fresh nuclear fuel can be transported trough air, with limited amounts at the time. Used nuclear fuel in those flasks are not transported trough air. Always by land or sea. On the sea they are transported in purpose-built ships. Small amounts of highly radioactive nuclear fuel are transported trough air but they be in extremely secure type C containers that survive crash from cruising altitude. Creating similar containers that survive crash from space launch would make launching very expensive. Most of the payload would be just the container and only small amounts would be radioactive material. It's 1000 times cheaper to recycle nuclear fuel make nuclear reactors that use nuclear waste than shoot it into space. France does it in La Hague. The rest can be buried into the ground.

qu-everything 6y ago

Totally different, a space ship failling would mean tons of nuclear dust in the upper atmosphere, wich would mean radioactive material spreading everywhere in the world, poisonning everything.