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I think the discussion is focusing on levels of the US government and what has been experienced by the public under that government since its founding. Actual

I think the discussion is focusing on levels of the US government and what has been experienced by the public under that government since its founding. Actual exercised power by US governmental entities. The discussion of other governments will probably lead this thread into a swampy delta and it will lose its motive force.

stonogo 6y ago
I'm not sure why the artificial limitations on comparison; Twitter and Facebook are wholly active and engaged in markets with governments with such histories. Anyway, if you want such examples, look to the Mexican Dirty War for many, as well as the Banana Massacre. The latter of course was merely a threat to deploy the Marines, but the reasoning announced was not strikebreaking but because the strikers were "subversives"; that is, the US claimed to want them silenced not for what they were doing but for what they were saying. In the past, I would have said that Posse Comitatus would have prevented such behavior from being directed toward American citizens, but after seeing the mutual-law-skirting nature of the Five Eyes approach, as well as the presence of Federal troops in law enforcement roles in US cities over the past year, I'm no longer confident.
dnautics 6y ago
> I think the discussion is focusing on levels of the US government and what has been experienced by the public under that government since its founding Get back to me when twitter can order an airstrike against an minor and enjoy qualified immunity.
- briantakita 6y ago
  The Chinese Communist Party is being accused of many human rights violations against the Uyghurs, Falun Gong, Christians, factory workers, etc. There are also allegations that the CCP is interfering with the United States government & election process. If these violations are true, then Twitter & the Big Media is complicit in obfuscating evidence of collusion & hidden business partnerships between the Vice President via his family & the CCP. If these allegations are not true, then the public conversation has been censored & the story of censorship overshadows investigation which would absolve the innocent parties. Either way, the public deserves to have direct access the truth.

stonogo 6y ago

I'm not sure why the artificial limitations on comparison; Twitter and Facebook are wholly active and engaged in markets with governments with such histories. Anyway, if you want such examples, look to the Mexican Dirty War for many, as well as the Banana Massacre. The latter of course was merely a threat to deploy the Marines, but the reasoning announced was not strikebreaking but because the strikers were "subversives"; that is, the US claimed to want them silenced not for what they were doing but for what they were saying. In the past, I would have said that Posse Comitatus would have prevented such behavior from being directed toward American citizens, but after seeing the mutual-law-skirting nature of the Five Eyes approach, as well as the presence of Federal troops in law enforcement roles in US cities over the past year, I'm no longer confident.

dnautics 6y ago

> I think the discussion is focusing on levels of the US government and what has been experienced by the public under that government since its founding Get back to me when twitter can order an airstrike against an minor and enjoy qualified immunity.

briantakita 6y ago
The Chinese Communist Party is being accused of many human rights violations against the Uyghurs, Falun Gong, Christians, factory workers, etc. There are also allegations that the CCP is interfering with the United States government & election process. If these violations are true, then Twitter & the Big Media is complicit in obfuscating evidence of collusion & hidden business partnerships between the Vice President via his family & the CCP. If these allegations are not true, then the public conversation has been censored & the story of censorship overshadows investigation which would absolve the innocent parties. Either way, the public deserves to have direct access the truth.