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You want to 'develop' on a mobile device? Interested to hear how you would envision this being a pleasant experience. It's also a trade off between installing

by willbw 6y ago

You want to 'develop' on a mobile device? Interested to hear how you would envision this being a pleasant experience. It's also a trade off between installing what software you want and security - the App store means you don't have to worry about (certain kinds) of maliciousness from software you install. I just think it's a little bit of a spicy take saying mobile devices "don't deliver" when they are most successful form of computing in history by a large margin. I would argue this is for a reason and they provide enormous value.

pier25 6y ago
What if you could connect an external display, keyboard, and mouse? Of course, you need an OS that supports that and provides a proper desktop-like experience.
- culopatin 6y ago
  Motorola Atrix comes to mind, or one of those. This was a thing back in 2011 or whenever that phone came out. You could dock your phone and use it as a laptop.
  - pier25 6y ago
    Samsung has Dex too: https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/dex/ https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/dex/ I'm not surprised Apple doesn't have something like this as it would probably cannibalize their Macbook sales.
titzer 6y ago
> they provide enormous value. My point is that they have incredible computational power that is often wasted on pretty graphics and other nonessentials. Pretty much all communication/text apps (except video) could easily run on a device spec'd far lower. The web is ridiculously bloated and full of ads and crapware. Just rendering pages of decent-looking text shouldn't take so much power. Even manipulating maps for navigation is mostly a 2d graphics scaling problem that can't possibly require that much horsepower. But yes, my point about development does pretty much rely on having an external keyboard and mouse. Here's a pic of the logic board of an iPhone 11: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UNjifVHATsvaagZB.full https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UNjifVHATsvaagZB.f... The miniaturization of tech is absolutely astounding to me, even today. We're pretty unappreciative and wasteful, IMHO. 20 year old me would have been absolutely astounded that that much power was packed in that tiny space, and yet what it delivers is just marginally prettier and not more usable than back then.
wingerlang 6y ago
fwiw some people develop software for jailbroken devices on their device. They seem to manage somehow. I suspect with a Bluetooth keyboard and an external screen it would be too bad if you had no other choice.

by willbw 6y ago

pier25 6y ago

What if you could connect an external display, keyboard, and mouse? Of course, you need an OS that supports that and provides a proper desktop-like experience.

culopatin 6y ago
Motorola Atrix comes to mind, or one of those. This was a thing back in 2011 or whenever that phone came out. You could dock your phone and use it as a laptop.
- pier25 6y ago
  Samsung has Dex too: https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/dex/ https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/dex/ I'm not surprised Apple doesn't have something like this as it would probably cannibalize their Macbook sales.

titzer 6y ago

> they provide enormous value. My point is that they have incredible computational power that is often wasted on pretty graphics and other nonessentials. Pretty much all communication/text apps (except video) could easily run on a device spec'd far lower. The web is ridiculously bloated and full of ads and crapware. Just rendering pages of decent-looking text shouldn't take so much power. Even manipulating maps for navigation is mostly a 2d graphics scaling problem that can't possibly require that much horsepower. But yes, my point about development does pretty much rely on having an external keyboard and mouse. Here's a pic of the logic board of an iPhone 11: https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UNjifVHATsvaagZB.full https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/UNjifVHATsvaagZB.f... The miniaturization of tech is absolutely astounding to me, even today. We're pretty unappreciative and wasteful, IMHO. 20 year old me would have been absolutely astounded that that much power was packed in that tiny space, and yet what it delivers is just marginally prettier and not more usable than back then.

wingerlang 6y ago

fwiw some people develop software for jailbroken devices on their device. They seem to manage somehow. I suspect with a Bluetooth keyboard and an external screen it would be too bad if you had no other choice.