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[I posted this comment as a child of another comment below, but I think it's important enough to this discussion that I'm reposting it here.] To have a sensibl

[I posted this comment as a child of another comment below, but I think it's important enough to this discussion that I'm reposting it here.] To have a sensible conversation, we have to acknowledge what the alleged Biden emails are: at best, stolen information; and at worst, intentionally manipulated or fabricated information. In either case, the information is being released now for the explicit goal of altering the outcome of the election in favor of those who are releasing it. We haven't had this issue in history before: it's never been so easy to reach so many people with such bad information. This places intermediaries, including Twitter, in an awkward situation: they can "censor" by restricting access to intentionally misleading information; or they can release it, and thereby become pawns of the bad actors who propagate it. As has been pointed out, this is a moral issue. We should step pretending that all censorship is bad, and that compelling intermediaries to publish literally everything is a moral good.

googthrowaway42 6y ago
At "best" they're evidence of extreme corruption that compromises US national security. The allegations and evidence points to many insider dealings with CCP linked Chinese companies including what appear to be unreported loans from Chinese banks.
- hackyhacky 6y ago
  A cursory reading of the both the data itself and the circumstances by which it came to light will reveal that your interpretation is highly improbable. You can believe what you like. But don't ask me to believe that a person took 3 laptops to a repair company in a state where he doesn't live; that the said company was operated by a blind person; that the security camera footage of the delivery of the laptops was erased; that the laptops were unintentionally forgotten there; and that they somehow found their way into the hands of one Rudolph Giuliani. To believe that story, you have to be gullible or complicit.
  - googthrowaway42 6y ago
    Where are you getting this idea that 3 laptops were dropped off to this repair company? There was one laptop. The repair shop is in Delaware, where Joe Biden was a senator for many decades and where the Bidens have held various political positions for many decades. I suspect that you really don't understand the story that well. That is understandable considering the insane amount of gaslighting, misinformation, and censorship that is going on around it.
    - hackyhacky 6y ago
      My apologies: one laptop, three hard drives. My point stands. He had been a senator in Delaware, but no longer lived there at the time. Why would he travel across the country to visit a repair shop in the middle of nowhere with a conveniently blind owner and conveniently erased camera footage. There is no universe in which this story is plausible. Before accusing me of not understanding the story, please take a moment to read what I wrote. You are contributing to the gaslighting around this topic.
      - googthrowaway42 6y ago
        They made copies of the hard drive in the laptop? As a software engineer I can assure you that that it is very easy to make copies of a hard drive and I expect that a computer repair guy would know how. > He had been a senator in Delaware, but no longer lived there at the time. The Bidens have multiple houses in Delaware. There are many pictures leaked from Hunter's laptop that have Delaware in the geocode. If you want to be weird about it you can go look up the Biden family's social media accounts (still up) and see pictures of them at their houses in Delaware. It really sounds like you just don't want to believe this. Very cult like behavior.
        jounker 6y ago
        The reporters at the New York Post thought the story was so dubious that they refused to be named in the byline, and the basic premise directly contradicts the historical (and easily verifiable) facts surrounding the Shokin’s removal.

googthrowaway42 6y ago

At "best" they're evidence of extreme corruption that compromises US national security. The allegations and evidence points to many insider dealings with CCP linked Chinese companies including what appear to be unreported loans from Chinese banks.

hackyhacky 6y ago
A cursory reading of the both the data itself and the circumstances by which it came to light will reveal that your interpretation is highly improbable. You can believe what you like. But don't ask me to believe that a person took 3 laptops to a repair company in a state where he doesn't live; that the said company was operated by a blind person; that the security camera footage of the delivery of the laptops was erased; that the laptops were unintentionally forgotten there; and that they somehow found their way into the hands of one Rudolph Giuliani. To believe that story, you have to be gullible or complicit.
- googthrowaway42 6y ago
  Where are you getting this idea that 3 laptops were dropped off to this repair company? There was one laptop. The repair shop is in Delaware, where Joe Biden was a senator for many decades and where the Bidens have held various political positions for many decades. I suspect that you really don't understand the story that well. That is understandable considering the insane amount of gaslighting, misinformation, and censorship that is going on around it.
  - hackyhacky 6y ago
    My apologies: one laptop, three hard drives. My point stands. He had been a senator in Delaware, but no longer lived there at the time. Why would he travel across the country to visit a repair shop in the middle of nowhere with a conveniently blind owner and conveniently erased camera footage. There is no universe in which this story is plausible. Before accusing me of not understanding the story, please take a moment to read what I wrote. You are contributing to the gaslighting around this topic.
    - googthrowaway42 6y ago
      They made copies of the hard drive in the laptop? As a software engineer I can assure you that that it is very easy to make copies of a hard drive and I expect that a computer repair guy would know how. > He had been a senator in Delaware, but no longer lived there at the time. The Bidens have multiple houses in Delaware. There are many pictures leaked from Hunter's laptop that have Delaware in the geocode. If you want to be weird about it you can go look up the Biden family's social media accounts (still up) and see pictures of them at their houses in Delaware. It really sounds like you just don't want to believe this. Very cult like behavior.
      - jounker 6y ago
        The reporters at the New York Post thought the story was so dubious that they refused to be named in the byline, and the basic premise directly contradicts the historical (and easily verifiable) facts surrounding the Shokin’s removal.