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A MacBook Pro can have an i9 and 8 cores, isn't that better than the i7-1185G7?

sixothree 6y ago
MacBooks have terrible thermals. They will thermal throttle before most laptops, much less even compared to a desktop. Also, laptops generally have CPUs that pull 15 watts. Whereas desktops have CPUs that can pull 95 watts or higher (sometimes up to 150). The difference is astounding.
- trevyn 6y ago
  The 15/16" MBPs have a 45W CPU TDP; they can run CPU continuously at at least 45W as long as your ambient temperature is normal-ish and the airflow isn't obstructed, and can do 60W+ if thermals are cooperative. See: https://evanmccann.net/blog/2020/5/13-inch-macbook-pro-review https://evanmccann.net/blog/2020/5/13-inch-macbook-pro-revie...
  - KptMarchewa 6y ago
    I guess you haven't tried connecting to external monitor during that. 40, 100, 29 in pmset -g thermlog instantly.
    - trevyn 6y ago
      Ooh, you're right, I retract. A few minutes for me, though, not "instantly".
falcolas 6y ago
Not necessarily. Intel is still putting out i3's with better performance than their i5 or i9 models. It's all about the specs, not the model number.
ddingus 6y ago
Depends on what the workload is. CAD, for example, barring new geometry work in progress now, is single threaded. People working on high surface count models want these things: Big, fat, fast cache Sustained sequential compute performance Sustained I/O GPU that focuses on geometry and precision. This is not generally an issue today, but can be on laptops. Desktop machines with active cooling are where it is at.
numpad0 6y ago
i3/i5/i7/i9 aren’t actually different processors, they make a handful of desktop/laptop/server... variants for each generation of Core architecture CPU and differentiate down the line by binning and restrictions added at time of production. So mobile i5 might have nothing to do with desktop i5, or i7 and Xeon can be taken from the same batch.

MacBooks have terrible thermals. They will thermal throttle before most laptops, much less even compared to a desktop. Also, laptops generally have CPUs that pull 15 watts. Whereas desktops have CPUs that can pull 95 watts or higher (sometimes up to 150). The difference is astounding.

trevyn 6y ago
The 15/16" MBPs have a 45W CPU TDP; they can run CPU continuously at at least 45W as long as your ambient temperature is normal-ish and the airflow isn't obstructed, and can do 60W+ if thermals are cooperative. See: https://evanmccann.net/blog/2020/5/13-inch-macbook-pro-review https://evanmccann.net/blog/2020/5/13-inch-macbook-pro-revie...
- KptMarchewa 6y ago
  I guess you haven't tried connecting to external monitor during that. 40, 100, 29 in pmset -g thermlog instantly.
  - trevyn 6y ago
    Ooh, you're right, I retract. A few minutes for me, though, not "instantly".

falcolas 6y ago

Not necessarily. Intel is still putting out i3's with better performance than their i5 or i9 models. It's all about the specs, not the model number.

ddingus 6y ago

Depends on what the workload is. CAD, for example, barring new geometry work in progress now, is single threaded. People working on high surface count models want these things: Big, fat, fast cache Sustained sequential compute performance Sustained I/O GPU that focuses on geometry and precision. This is not generally an issue today, but can be on laptops. Desktop machines with active cooling are where it is at.

numpad0 6y ago

i3/i5/i7/i9 aren’t actually different processors, they make a handful of desktop/laptop/server... variants for each generation of Core architecture CPU and differentiate down the line by binning and restrictions added at time of production. So mobile i5 might have nothing to do with desktop i5, or i7 and Xeon can be taken from the same batch.