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It's the latency. Getting a turn to speak becomes very difficult if the speaker doesn't provide a reasonable gap to break in to the conversation. You basically
by ziml77 6y ago
It's the latency. Getting a turn to speak becomes very difficult if the speaker doesn't provide a reasonable gap to break in to the conversation. You basically just need to push harder on the interruption than they push on continuing to speak. I know it sounds rude, but sometimes you need clarification if you want to have a chance at understanding what the speaker wants to say next. Sometimes you spot a flaw in what they've said and need to interject before they waste 10 minutes talking about something that's not going to work. And sometimes you just need to cut someone off to stop them from rambling and repeating the same thing in 5 different ways.
While there are non-verbal cues that indicate that you have something to say, my experience with physical meetings is that those cues get completely overlooked anyway.
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- piinbinary 6y agoI think Zoom makes this even worse because they nearly mute[0] the audio of all but the person currently speaking. (I'm not sure if this is a real feature, or just a side-effect of something else) [0] I think the audio still plays, but at a greatly reduced volume.
- gerdesj 6y agoAnyone who has done VoIP/comms for any length of time will agree with you. To feel immediacy, latency must be less than about 50ms, ideally less than 30ms. However we are capable of dealing with latency up to around 1s without wincing too much and even half duplex can work some times. However, that is for one on one conversations. Unless everyone has reasonably decent comms (10 people, with video: roughly 10Mbs-1 each way at about 10ms to ISP router) then drop to voice only. You only need 64Kbs-1 for a high quality voice channel. Mobile quality is about 16Kbs-1. The killer is latency and the related jitter. I spend quite a lot of time twiddling various parameters to get voice comms to work as well as I can. Latency is the biggest contributor to quality.
- GuB-42 6y agoThis, latency matters a lot. We had a virtual meeting where we almost insulted each other with my manager. For the context, we are real life friends, and even though we sometimes have heated arguments, as it was the case here, it never went that far. After we calmed down, we talked to each other and realized that lag played a huge role. She thought I was constantly interrupting her and I thought she didn't listen to me. In reality, it was just a network problem and latency was over a second, but we didn't realize it as we were too busy arguing. Virtual meetings are fine when people take turns speaking and no one is interrupting. But when you are debating, brainstorming, or working together on a problem, even a small amount of latency makes it terrible.
- dheera 6y agoYes, this. Also, I hate interrupting people, and hate being interrupted. In real life meetings though it's somewhat easier to tell if the other person is confused or wants to say something and give them a chance to speak.
- oever 6y agoJust say 'over' at the end of your contribution.