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I’m really confused by what I’m reading on this page. Can someone clarify the different between these two? Quoting: > Apple iOS continues to hold its large sh

by kovek 6y ago

I’m really confused by what I’m reading on this page. Can someone clarify the different between these two? Quoting: > Apple iOS continues to hold its large share of the smartphone operating systems’ market within the United States, claiming more than half of the market in May 2020. > ... > Android still the one to catch > Android, however, still holds the largest share of the United States smartphone operating systems’ market and has done for many year. So this is about the smartphone operating systems, in the united states. Apple has “more than half of the market”, and Android has “the largest share”. How are both statements possibly true?

411111111111111 6y ago
The first number is about sold devices in may, the later is about all devices in use no matter when they were bought
- hamburglar 6y ago
  off-topic, but if "username checks out" style posts were appropriate here, this would be a good place for one. :D
  - vermilingua 6y ago
    You’re right, they’re not appropriate here.
sandworm101 6y ago
>> claiming more than half of the market in May 2020. Market share /= number of devices. Apple owns the "market", ie the money. Apple owners spend vastly more on their OS (via playstore). Android might be running on vastly more devices, but the people who matter, the rich people with money to spend on camera apps, spend that money via iPhones. We live in a world where whales matter more than customers. The legions of android users who use their phones to make phonecalls, as internet browsers, and as navigational tools ... they don't matter as much as any single iPhone user who regularly drops a few hundred every month on eye candy iPhone backgrounds.
- kovek 6y ago
  I see what you mean here, and it might be what the statistics website is claiming. However, it is not clear at all. They use the words "large share of the smartphone operating systems’ market within the United States," and "largest share of the United States smartphone operating systems’ market" when talking about the market share for Apple and for Android, respectively. Sounds like the same metric is being compared.
- woah 6y ago
  I don’t think it’s that stark. iPhone has captured the market of people who want to pay for things related to their smartphone by offering a slightly higher end smartphone. Android users made a choice to prioritize their smartphone less in their financial lives by getting a cheaper device (except for the 5-6 HN commenters who got an Android because of a personal vendetta against the Apple App Store policies). It stands to reason that the people who decided not to spend money on a smartphone also decide not to spend money on smartphone apps.
  - underwater 6y ago
    Your comment is reading as pretty condescending and judgemental. Not everyone who owns an Android is cheap.
    - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
      there's a difference between cheap, thrifty, and not wasteful.
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  - marketingPro 6y ago
    It boggles me to think an Apple user thinks they are getting something high end. A nerd get an Android, where a teenager will get an iPhone. It's simply a low information consumer buying an overpriced product.
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by kovek 6y ago

411111111111111 6y ago

The first number is about sold devices in may, the later is about all devices in use no matter when they were bought

hamburglar 6y ago
off-topic, but if "username checks out" style posts were appropriate here, this would be a good place for one. :D
- vermilingua 6y ago
  You’re right, they’re not appropriate here.

sandworm101 6y ago

>> claiming more than half of the market in May 2020. Market share /= number of devices. Apple owns the "market", ie the money. Apple owners spend vastly more on their OS (via playstore). Android might be running on vastly more devices, but the people who matter, the rich people with money to spend on camera apps, spend that money via iPhones. We live in a world where whales matter more than customers. The legions of android users who use their phones to make phonecalls, as internet browsers, and as navigational tools ... they don't matter as much as any single iPhone user who regularly drops a few hundred every month on eye candy iPhone backgrounds.

kovek 6y ago
I see what you mean here, and it might be what the statistics website is claiming. However, it is not clear at all. They use the words "large share of the smartphone operating systems’ market within the United States," and "largest share of the United States smartphone operating systems’ market" when talking about the market share for Apple and for Android, respectively. Sounds like the same metric is being compared.
woah 6y ago
I don’t think it’s that stark. iPhone has captured the market of people who want to pay for things related to their smartphone by offering a slightly higher end smartphone. Android users made a choice to prioritize their smartphone less in their financial lives by getting a cheaper device (except for the 5-6 HN commenters who got an Android because of a personal vendetta against the Apple App Store policies). It stands to reason that the people who decided not to spend money on a smartphone also decide not to spend money on smartphone apps.
- underwater 6y ago
  Your comment is reading as pretty condescending and judgemental. Not everyone who owns an Android is cheap.
  - bryanrasmussen 6y ago
    there's a difference between cheap, thrifty, and not wasteful.
- deleted 6y ago
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- marketingPro 6y ago
  It boggles me to think an Apple user thinks they are getting something high end. A nerd get an Android, where a teenager will get an iPhone. It's simply a low information consumer buying an overpriced product.
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